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On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:49 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I thought {broda gi'e brode vau fa da} is equivalent to {da broda gi'e
> brode} and it implies that it's the same "da" that does both broda and
> brode.

If you replace "da" with "ko'a", that's exactly right. Also "PA da
zo'u broda gi'e brode vau fa da" is equivalent to "PA da zo'u da broda
gi'e brode".

Quantifiers and logical connectives are both bridi operators, and they
don't generally commute, so you can't just move one past the other,

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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