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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04083a4bdaad4404b4b6217c X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04083a4bdaad4404b4b6217c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh! Useless! I get it now. On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Blech, I'm always forgetting that pilno doesn't own pi'o > On Dec 22, 2011 4:10 PM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: > >> I'm sorry, what's the opposite of a piano? >> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >>> Well sure but that's kind of akin to saying "no need for nursery rhymes. >>> Just use {cifselsa'a}". >>> >>> I'll throw in some things I've found myself using in the past: >>> cmamenpre >>> latpinca >>> tolmencre is a classic >>> maltolpi'o >>> >>> Usually if a thing is inherrently unpleasant I won't bother with the >>> "mal" since it seems unlikely for a person hearing "doi latpinca" to get >>> confused and think that I actually believe that I'm addressing cat piss. >>> But in cases like "tolpi'o" I'll throw the "mal" on just to clarify that >>> I'm not merely stating a fact. >>> On Dec 22, 2011 3:44 PM, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: >>> >>>> On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:30:46 Luke Bergen wrote: >>>> > It sounds like .aionys. is basically just asking if we could start >>>> > developing some lojbanic culture around cursing much like robin asked >>>> us to >>>> > come up with some lojban nursery rhymes. >>>> >>>> There is, of course, "mabla", which is defined as "x1 is a derogative >>>> connotation/sense of x2 used by x3" but several of us think it should >>>> be a >>>> general-purpose cussword. >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> -- >>>> Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d04083a4bdaad4404b4b6217c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh! Useless! I get it now.

On Thu, Dec 22= , 2011 at 3:47 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

Blech, I'm always forgetting that pilno doesn't own pi'o

On Dec 22, 2011 4:10 PM, "= ;Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div>
I'm sorry, what's the opposite of a piano?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Luke Bergen &l= t;lukeabergen@gm= ail.com> wrote:

Well sure but that's kind of akin to = saying "no need for nursery rhymes. Just use {cifselsa'a}".

I'll throw in some things I've found myself using in the past: cmamenpre
latpinca
tolmencre is a classic
maltolpi'o

Usually if a thing is inherrently unpleasant I won't bother with the= "mal" since it seems unlikely for a person hearing "doi lat= pinca" to get confused and think that I actually believe that I'm = addressing cat piss.=A0 But in cases like "tolpi'o" I'll = throw the "mal" on just to clarify that I'm not merely statin= g a fact.

On Dec 22, 2011 3:44 PM, "Pierre Abbat"= ; <phma@phma.opt= us.nu> wrote:
On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:30:46 Luke Bergen wrote:
> It sounds like .aionys. is basically just asking if we could start
> developing some lojbanic culture around cursing much like robin asked = us to
> come up with some lojban nursery rhymes.

There is, of course, "mabla", which is defined as "x1 is a d= erogative
connotation/sense of x2 used by x3" but several of us think it should = be a
general-purpose cussword.

Pierre
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Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

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