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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {gi'e} and overlapping arrays
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OK, I think I get it. I was confused by

> "PA da
> zo'u broda gi'e brode vau fa da" is equivalent to "PA da zo'u da broda
> gi'e brode".

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 22 Gru, 22:41, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Janek <j...@o2.pl> wrote:
> > So, {da crino gi'e xunre} doesn't mean "something is both green and
> > red", but "something is green and something is red"?
>
> No, it does mean the first:
>
> (1) [su'o] da crino gi'e xunre
> =3D su'o da zo'u da crino gi'e xunre
> =3D su'o da zo'u ge da crino gi da xunre
>
> > I can't say that
> > I like it. How can I say it to mean the former?
>
> The other one is:
>
> (2) crino gi'e xunre vau fa su'o da
> =3D ge crino fa su'o da gi xunre fa su'o da
> =3D ge su'o da zo'u da crino gi su'o da zo'u da xunre
>
> In (1), su'o comes first and thus has scope over gi'e. In (2) gi'e
> comes first and has scope over su'o.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes

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