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On Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:05:59 AM UTC+4, ianek wrote:

> Very nice! I've translated some Polish songs before and I know how 
> much work it takes to fit it in the rhythm. 
>
> Some notes: 
> * shouldn't it be {te tonga} or {se janbe}? The former is easier to 
> fit in the rhythm. 
>

I agree that in lojban the bell and the sound it emits are interconnected. 
But just singing {janbe lo'e} is a bit strange.
But if you have any alternative translations please post. I'll accept any 
precious amendment.

* {sakli}, not {sakla} 
>
sorry 

> * "snow and fields" fills x4 in both {klama} and {cmila} and in the 
> latter it makes no sense. 
>
> ki'esai. Then I suggest

VERSION 2
Refrain:
.u'i se janbe je
vitno ca lo nu
klama gi'e nenri fe
lo sakli carce ku

First verse:
fo lo snime ku
.e lo foldi ku
fa mi klama .ije
stodi cmila .iu

I'm afraid that each verse must begin with ni'o or .i 
Is it so ?
Any mistakes ?
Any suggestions for next verses ?

mu'o mi'e ianek 
>
> On 23 Gru, 08:17, gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > Several years ago there was an attempt to translate this song but 
> without 
> > preserving the rhythm. 
> > So here is my attempt. 
> > 
> > Refrain: 
> > .u'i lo janbe ku 
> > tonga ca lo nu 
> > klama gi'e nenri fe 
> > lo sakla carce ku 
> > 
> > First verse: 
> > fo lo snime ku 
> > .e lo foldi ku 
> > fa mi klama gi'e 
> > stodi cmila .iu 
> > 
> > Any mistakes ? 
> > Any suggestions for next verses ?

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t; ">On Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:05:59 AM UTC+4, ianek wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Very nice! I've translated so=
me Polish songs before and I know how
<br>much work it takes to fit it in the rhythm.
<br>
<br>Some notes:
<br>* shouldn't it be {te tonga} or {se janbe}? The former is easier to
<br>fit in the rhythm.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree that in lojban the bell and th=
e sound it emits are interconnected. But just singing {janbe lo'e} is a bit=
 strange.</div><div>But if you have any alternative translations please pos=
t. I'll accept any precious amendment.</div><div><br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">* {sakli}, not {sakla}
<br></blockquote><div>sorry&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t: 1ex;">* "snow and fields" fills x4 in both {klama} and {cmila} and in th=
e
<br>latter it makes no sense.
<br>
<br></blockquote><div>ki'esai. Then I suggest</div><div><br></div><div>VERS=
ION 2</div><div><span style=3D"border-style: initial; border-color: initial=
; text-align: left; ">Refrain:</span><br style=3D"text-align: left; "><span=
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>.u'i se janbe je</span><br style=3D"text-align: left; "><span style=3D"bor=
der-style: initial; border-color: initial; text-align: left; ">vitno ca lo =
nu</span><br style=3D"text-align: left; "><span style=3D"border-style: init=
ial; border-color: initial; text-align: left; ">klama gi'e nenri fe</span><=
br style=3D"text-align: left; "><span style=3D"border-style: initial; borde=
r-color: initial; text-align: left; ">lo sakli carce ku</span><div style=3D=
"border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-style: initial; borde=
r-color: initial; text-align: left; "><br></div><div style=3D"border-style:=
 initial; border-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initi=
al; text-align: left; ">First verse:<br>fo lo snime ku<br>.e lo foldi ku<br=
>fa mi klama .ije<br>stodi cmila .iu</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-ne=
wline"></div><div>I'm afraid that each verse must begin with ni'o or .i&nbs=
p;</div><div>Is it so ?</div><div><div style=3D"border-style: initial; bord=
er-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; text-align=
: left; ">Any mistakes ?<br></div><div style=3D"border-style: initial; bord=
er-color: initial; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; text-align=
: left; ">Any suggestions for next verses ?</div><br class=3D"Apple-interch=
ange-newline"></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;ma=
rgin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">mu'o mi'e =
ianek
<br>
<br>On 23 Gru, 08:17, gleki &lt;<a>gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt; Several years ago there was an attempt to translate this song but =
without
<br>&gt; preserving the rhythm.
<br>&gt; So here is my attempt.
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; Refrain:
<br>&gt; .u'i lo janbe ku
<br>&gt; tonga ca lo nu
<br>&gt; klama gi'e nenri fe
<br>&gt; lo sakla carce ku
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; First verse:
<br>&gt; fo lo snime ku
<br>&gt; .e lo foldi ku
<br>&gt; fa mi klama gi'e
<br>&gt; stodi cmila .iu
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; Any mistakes ?
<br>&gt; Any suggestions for next verses ?</blockquote>

<p></p>

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