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From: Aaron Hawryluk To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: aaron.hawryluk@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aaron.hawryluk@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=aaron.hawryluk@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554da6a1b670304b7893d6a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec554da6a1b670304b7893d6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or, if there's an html version in existence, it could just be ported to .epub with Calibre... Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II X. On Jan 27, 2012 6:50 AM, "CosmicRay" wrote: > Those were very much my thoughts too - that porting a regularly updated > open source formatted book into a proprietary format was going to be > awfully tough to keep up with. However, unlike apps, I think iBooks are > static once published. Authors don't push out a v1.x update after the > fact. With this in mind it's probably still worth forking the next stabl= e > CLL major version and porting it, perhaps even embedding an errata sectio= n > by use of a web view that points back to the github repo in case of any > major boo-boos. > > kozmikreis > > > > On 24 Jan 2012, at 02:44, Joshua Proehl wrote: > > I was just looking into the idea of creating a CLL iBook as well! > The problem that I see is that iBooks Author doesn't appear to play very > nicely with the idea of streaming data in from other files. Which means > that it's not really possible to script "convert the source files into an > iBook", but rather each change made to the source files would have to be > manually made to the iBook as well. Which is going to rapidly become > painful. Further looking into is required however, as it would be a truly > incredible platform to use. > > ---- > Josh > _____________________ > Instead of our drab slogging forth and back to the fishing boats, there's > a reason to life! We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find > ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can b= e > free! We can learn to fly! > > =97 Richard Bach, 'Jonathan Livingston Seagull,' 1970. > > > > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:11, kozmikreis wrote= : > >> I look forward to trying that out, please let us know when it's >> available. It'll be good when there's finally a Lojban-specific app in = the >> iTunes Store :-) >> >> Regarding my conlanger meet-up app idea, I retain no rights to the idea >> should you or anyone else wants to implement it either solo or as a >> collaboration. >> >> On a slightly related note, there's now a free iBooks Author app in the >> Mac App Store for authoring rich content books for iPad consumption. It >> looks ideal for creating and sharing educational textbooks. The CLL as = an >> iBook would be a good place to start, once the latest changes to it have >> been completed - thoughts anyone? >> >> kozmikreis >> >> >> >> On 22 Jan 2012, at 09:13, aryrain laubels wrote: >> >> I have written a Lojban Dictionary in pure Objective C, I am currently >> waiting for approval. I finished it a week or so ago but posted it today= . >> But some other applications would be interesting. >> >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:58 AM, kozmikreis wr= ote: >> >>> [repost, original seems to have been lost to the aether] >>> >>> I've got an Apple iOS Developer account and would be happy to have a >>> hand in writing a Lojban app for iOS (and Android if I can get the damn= SDK >>> and toolset stable), it's just I haven't thought of an app idea that ha= s >>> anything better to it than those that already exist. >>> >>> My dev language of choice would probably be the JavaScript variant from >>> Appcelerator, not that it's anything amazing, but it can compile to >>> multiple platforms and takes away some of the suckage of Objective C. >>> >>> One idea I had was perhaps a meet-up app for conlangers in general, >>> whereby you tick the list of languages you speak or are learning to spe= ak >>> and perhaps your level of proficiency, and let it run in the background >>> occasionally checking your location in to a central server. When someo= ne >>> else with a matching conlang interest is nearby the phone can alert you= so >>> you can meet up and say coi. Might be good for finding people to pract= ice >>> with? >>> >>> kozmikreis >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12 Jan 2012, at 06:27, kalsa wrote: >>> >>> coi >>> is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners ipod app? apps >>> like flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thinking maybe= a >>> more lojban specific app would help for people who are already wanting = to >>> learn, getting to look at it on the go, or maybe to hear spoken lojban= , or >>> maybe just to make it more accessible to a wider variety of people. Jus= t a >>> thought. >>> co'o >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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Or, if there's an html version in existence, it could just be ported= to .epub with Calibre...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II X.

On Jan 27, 2012 6:50 AM, "CosmicRay" &= lt;cr@cosmicray.co.uk> wrote:<= br type=3D"attribution">
Those were very much my thoughts too - = that porting a regularly updated open source formatted book into a propriet= ary format was going to be awfully tough to keep up with. =A0However, unlik= e apps, I think iBooks are static once published. =A0Authors don't push= out a v1.x update after the fact. =A0With this in mind it's probably s= till worth forking the next stable CLL major version and porting it, perhap= s even embedding an errata section by use of a web view that points back to= the github repo in case of any major boo-boos.

kozmikreis



On 24 Jan 2012, at 02:44, Joshua Proehl wrote:

I was just looking into the idea of creating a CLL iBook as well!=
The problem that I see is that iBooks Author doesn't appear to play ver= y nicely with the idea of streaming data in from other files. Which means t= hat it's not really possible to script "convert the source files i= nto an iBook", but rather each change made to the source files would h= ave to be manually made to the iBook as well. Which is going to rapidly bec= ome painful. Further looking into is required however, as it would be a tru= ly incredible platform to use.

----
Josh
_____________________
Instead of our drab slogging f= orth and back to the fishing boats, there's a reason to life! We can li= ft ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excell= ence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! We can learn to fly!

=97 Richard Bach, 'Jonathan Livingston Seagull,' 1970.

<= br>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:11, kozmikrei= s <kozmikreis@lojban.org.uk> wrote:
I look forward to trying that out,= please let us know when it's available. =A0It'll be good when ther= e's finally a Lojban-specific app in the iTunes Store :-)
Regarding my conlanger meet-up app idea, I retain no rights to t= he idea should you or anyone else wants to implement it either solo or as a= collaboration.

On a slightly related note, there&= #39;s now a free iBooks Author app in the Mac App Store for authoring rich = content books for iPad consumption. =A0It looks ideal for creating and shar= ing educational textbooks. =A0The CLL as an iBook would be a good place to = start, once the latest changes to it have been completed - thoughts anyone?=

kozmikreis



On 22 Jan 2012, at 09= :13, aryrain laubels wrote:

I have written a Lojban Dictionary in pure Objective C, I am currently wait= ing for approval. I finished it a week or so ago but posted it today. But s= ome other applications would be interesting.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:58 AM, kozmikreis <kozmikreis@lojban.or= g.uk> wrote:
[repost, original seems to have be= en lost to the aether]

I've got an Apple iOS Develo= per account and would be happy to have a hand in writing a Lojban app for i= OS (and Android if I can get the damn SDK and toolset stable), it's jus= t I haven't thought of an app idea that has anything better to it than = those that already exist.

My dev language of choice would probably be the JavaScript variant from= Appcelerator, not that it's anything amazing, but it can compile to mu= ltiple platforms and takes away some of the suckage of Objective C.

One idea I had was perhaps a meet-up app for conlangers in general, whe= reby you tick the list of languages you speak or are learning to speak and = perhaps your level of proficiency, and let it run in the background occasio= nally checking your location in to a central server. =A0When someone else w= ith a matching conlang interest is nearby the phone can alert you so you ca= n meet up and say coi. =A0Might be good for finding people to practice with= ?

kozmikreis


On 12 Jan 2012, at 06:27, kalsa wrote:

coi
is there any talk of making a lojbanic/lojban beginners = ipod app? apps like flashcardlet are good for studying words, but i was thi= nking maybe a more lojban specific app would help for people who are alread= y wanting to learn, getting to =A0look at it on the go, or maybe to hear sp= oken lojban, or maybe just to make it more=A0accessible to a wider=A0variet= y=A0of people. Just a thought.=A0
co'o
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