Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:48279) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S0dZF-0007un-7o; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:39:02 -0800 Received: by qafl39 with SMTP id l39sf1506376qaf.16 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LvmGuLwd9ACXN3Fdu1KX7in//A7OrNY+ib6xh7GAXjI=; b=D2Oky8YcK1sOSp+NYyP/2qTZxb61IvJ+jNQRtfTz0uzqUKWWLbOJYubQT0IPbGp2Yf ml1fpC8BthWYB2XZFWsU7NsT/4lEY/Xbz0Yn+WoKb6jdRtSAcdwfMFDmxZrW7HI2cyAO grEyvqRMJVONx+kmCHrE89bRlUBzsbuE+bO+A= Received: by 10.52.68.209 with SMTP id y17mr444092vdt.11.1330022309225; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.3.135 with SMTP id 7ls1982452vcn.8.gmail; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.70.242 with SMTP id p18mr447936vdu.18.1330022307728; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by hs8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:38:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4757348.5062.1330009567131.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlt17> References: <10404621.2709.1329984160142.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynnk21> <201202230841.24903.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4757348.5062.1330009567131.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynlt17> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.56 Safari/535.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Native lojbanic proverbs (lojbo prije jufra) From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / English: "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" Polish: "kiedy wejdziesz mi=C4=99dzy wrony, musisz kraka=C4=87 jak i one" (= "when you come between crows, you have to caw as they do") Lojban: "ta'o lo nu do zvati la lojbanistan kei do lojbo tavla bilga" u'i mu'o mi'e ianek On 23 Lut, 16:06, gleki wrote: > On Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:41:24 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > By "copy" you mean what? Some ideas are expressed in many languages in > > different words. > > > English has "Make hay while the sun shines" and "Beat the iron while it= 's > > hot". French and Russian have the latter, "Il faut battre le fer pendan= t > > qu'il > > est chaud" and "=D0=9A=D1=83=D0=B9 =D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=BE= =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BA=D0=B0 =D0=B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D1=8F=D1=87=D0=BE". In a space= habitat, we could say > > "ei > > kavbu lo cmaplini ca lo nu lampagre". > > Well, yes. That's what I meant. Let's not copy words, but we may and have > to copy the meaning. Cos we might want to translate proverbs that are > useful in our lives and therefore already present in most languages. > > For "six of one, half a dozen of the other", my Lojban version is "lo dra= ta > > > > > > > > > cu > > muvdu .ijo lo se drata cu klama fu zi'o". > > > Pierre > > -- > > .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do > > .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga > > .icu'u la ma'atman. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.