Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:50594) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S2rpi-00076b-KB; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:17:15 -0800 Received: by dadv40 with SMTP id v40sf8020177dad.16 for ; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCLyIgqW1BhDKx7r6BBoEgHHSzg@googlegroups.com designates 10.224.116.145 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.224.116.145; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCLyIgqW1BhDKx7r6BBoEgHHSzg@googlegroups.com designates 10.224.116.145 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCLyIgqW1BhDKx7r6BBoEgHHSzg@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCLyIgqW1BhDKx7r6BBoEgHHSzg@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.224.116.145]) by 10.224.116.145 with SMTP id m17mr917798qaq.7.1330553828393 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:17:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gNzwDVUubGg6GpmSlrWsueArcU92nULMnHPdb9HDKSk=; b=x++ZMRFXa3rUryD3mDePyN3DXCQdJuTErM+/U8LStmv/l/QaJ3OgX9QHPMfuCfvs+t biaDEkVBRnLKKgciXpX8+spaS0dhMNPZrPLTQ4obq2cso4qU38XfGl2CSWNUUwES3QX0 SSii8wUUl6FzGwpOg9C5JaWgPeCLPbLoJVvSE= Received: by 10.224.116.145 with SMTP id m17mr287116qaq.7.1330553802825; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.166.138 with SMTP id m10ls1600127qcy.3.gmail; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.201.197 with SMTP id fb5mr1861395qab.7.1330553801365; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.106.133 with SMTP id x5msqao; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.22.3 with SMTP id z3mr301009vde.2.1330536241913; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:24:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:24:01 -0800 (PST) From: junpen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <518381.107.1330536241270.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> In-Reply-To: <785169.5280.1329990773298.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkz21> References: <785169.5280.1329990773298.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkz21> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: web-page as {seltidysfe} ({se tcidu sefta}) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: nergdnila@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_106_20906915.1330536241268" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_106_20906915.1330536241268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi la gleki .i zoi zoi I call "page" in general for {papri} and a physical sheet of paper with a written text for {bofpapri}. zoi .i mi se ctuca fi di'u gi'e tugni fi ri .i mi'e la junpen mu'o Den torsdagen den 23:e februari 2012 kl. 18:52:53 UTC+9 skrev gleki: > > We had a discussion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban. > What we decided is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for. > Our eye scans some surface and reads information from it. This is the most > general definition of any written text or media embedded into it. > A web-page is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not > only text and it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps). > On the other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of > paper with a written text. > > Note that {kibypapri} has two noticeable bugs. > 1. it references to {papri} that can be only physical > 2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" in general > > One more note. > {ckupau} is a page of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages > which can be single. > Den torsdagen den 23:e februari 2012 kl. 18:52:53 UTC+9 skrev gleki: > > We had a discussion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban. > What we decided is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for. > Our eye scans some surface and reads information from it. This is the most > general definition of any written text or media embedded into it. > A web-page is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not > only text and it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps). > On the other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of > paper with a written text. > > Note that {kibypapri} has two noticeable bugs. > 1. it references to {papri} that can be only physical > 2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" in general > > One more note. > {ckupau} is a page of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages > which can be single. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/opzoYSRQNNcJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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coi la gleki
.i zoi zoi

I call "page" in genera= l for {papri} and a physical sheet of paper with a written text f= or {bofpapri}.

zoi
.i mi se ctuca = fi di'u gi'e tugni fi ri

.i mi'e la junp= en mu'o

Den torsdagen den 23:e februari 2012 kl. 18:52:53 UTC+9 skre= v gleki:
We had a discussion ye= sterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban.
What we decided is t= hat {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for.
Our eye scans some= surface and reads information from it. This is the most general definition= of any written text or media embedded into it.
A web-page is wha= t can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not only text and it c= an be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps).
On the other= hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of paper with a w= ritten text.

Note that {kibypapri} has two noticea= ble bugs.
1. it references to {papri} that can be only physical
2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" in gene= ral

One more note.
{ckupau} is a page of= a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages which can be single.

Den torsdagen den 23:e februari 2012 kl. 18:52:53 UTC+= 9 skrev gleki:
We had a discuss= ion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban.
What we decide= d is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for.
Our eye scan= s some surface and reads information from it. This is the most general defi= nition of any written text or media embedded into it.
A web-page = is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not only text an= d it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps).
On the= other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of paper wi= th a written text.

Note that {kibypapri} has two n= oticeable bugs.
1. it references to {papri} that can be only phys= ical
2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" i= n general

One more note.
{ckupau} is a p= age of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages which can be single.=

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