Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:41181) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3CRg-0001Va-Kh; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:56 -0800 Received: by eeke50 with SMTP id e50sf948640eek.16 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDLsr_6BBoEIxk9YA@googlegroups.com designates 10.205.114.13 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.205.114.13; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDLsr_6BBoEIxk9YA@googlegroups.com designates 10.205.114.13 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDLsr_6BBoEIxk9YA@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDLsr_6BBoEIxk9YA@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.205.114.13]) by 10.205.114.13 with SMTP id ey13mr2237042bkc.32.1330633061150 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=iDDo+BgqfEzeToJ2qKsc4aSP+Mtmmc7wf6huwabU3MQ=; b=oQ7BVNNVz2zynRDK//WRYc3r0nNLxbZ7LqtIHsx5xBIDTFAmE8Qz3X1gTD5EhjgHLK 2c1HtAxdxxrMTlyY1qNes9NliV89FPDfo2E8tIAfJdrJvw7W/XMjyEb7fc4meMJJ7tGF oS5gdDa33cPNyA7TgL0zr40zUc5UIgYkMJy1A= Received: by 10.205.114.13 with SMTP id ey13mr658443bkc.32.1330633035763; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.226.131 with SMTP id iw3ls2824704bkb.4.gmail; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.156.210 with SMTP id y18mr558591bkw.7.1330633034766; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.156.210 with SMTP id y18mr558590bkw.7.1330633034738; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si3429461bkz.0.2012.03.01.12.17.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.54; Received: by mail-bk0-f54.google.com with SMTP id jc3so1643987bkc.27 for ; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 10.112.86.198 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.86.198; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.86.198]) by 10.112.86.198 with SMTP id r6mr3143258lbz.53.1330633034698 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.198 with SMTP id r6mr2569612lbz.53.1330633034482; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:17:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:17:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: mi'a .e ko.e'u se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554d6dc58c46704ba34256e X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec554d6dc58c46704ba34256e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ki'a mo On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:49 AM, ianek wrote: > ko'a rokci i ko'e grana i mo > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On 1 Mar, 10:40, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I nearly forgot. This is supposed to a be a group thing, so more than o= ne > > person ought to be responding, as well. If the players are capable, I'm > > willing to skip past basic selbri and assume everyone's at least famili= ar > > with grammar as laid out in L4B or equivalent. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > > > As I said, the game is a learning one. Specifically, this game is > designed > > > to teach someone a new language from nothing, learning words, grammar= , > etc. > > > by playing the game. > > > > > Basically, your answers were overly complicated. There's no rule that > says > > > you can't use stuff that hasn't been introduced, but I'm betting that= 's > > > because it's not expected for the players to know anything that hasn'= t. > > > > > In any case, the reason why {ko'a rokci} is the answer to {ko'a mo} i= s > > > because all you're expected to know is {.i ko'a goi ta rokci .i ko'e > goi ta > > > grana} > > > > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd >wrote: > > > > >> well, I see myself as a lojban beginner. I understand your reply, bu= t > I > > >> will not try to answer in lojban. I get your point to make things > simple > > >> for beginners, but I don't really get the rules for this game. And i= f > the > > >> content is pretty pointless, the whole thing seem pretty pointless, > even > > >> for =E0 beginner as me. Sorry, for thinking too much. > > >> fa'omi'e jongausib > > > > >> Den torsdagen den 1:e mars 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< > eyeo...@gmail.com>: > > > > >> > ti xe cilre nunkei .i do duspei .i ji'a le vi nunkei cu tese > zu'edji ro > > >> nintadni .i ku'inai lo bridi cu tese zu'edji lo sampu > > > > >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < > > >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > .i go'e gi'e go'a .i .ienaidai lo grana jenai rokci ku me ko'a .o > ko'e > > > > >> > 2012/2/29 Jonathan Jones > > > > >> >> to .i ko'a je'a rokci toi > > > > >> >> .i xu ko'a grana > > >> >> .i xu ko'e rokci > > > > >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < > > >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> >>> .i je'a ko'a rokci gi'e me lo rokci .i je'a ko'e grana gi'e me l= o > > >> grana .i ku'i ko'a mo ko'e > > > > >> >>> Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< > > >> eyeo...@gmail.com>: > > >> >>> > go'i najenai go'e .i ko'a rokci .i ko'a me lo rokci .i ko'e > grana > > >> .i ko'e me lo grana > > > > >> >>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < > > >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> >>> > .i ko'a pe lo plini cu cmalu > > >> >>> > .i ku'i ko'e na'e go'i ni'i ma > > > > >> >>> > Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< > > >> eyeo...@gmail.com>: > > >> >>> >> .i ko'a mo to ko'a me ma toi .i ko'e mo to ko'e me ma toi > > > > >> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Jones < > eyeo...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > > > >> >>> >> lo se nunkei cu cmene lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u > > > > >> >>> >> lo se skicu cu zvati zo'oi.http://lodockikumazvati.org > > > > >> >>> >> .i ko'a mo .i ko'e mo > > > > >> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < > > >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> >>> >> je'e .i o'anai.u'i > > >> >>> >> .i ma te ci'erkei ti .uanai > > > > >> >>> >> Den m=E5ndagen den 27:e februari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< > > >> eyeo...@gmail.com>: > > >> >>> >>> lo'u le mi ko'e le'u na gendra .i.e'u ko cusku la'ede'u bau = lo > > >> glibau > > > > >> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < > > >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> >>> >>> lo pagbu be lu'o ko'e si ko'a goi le rokci poi se pixra > > > > >> >>> >>> 2012/2/27 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis > > > > >> >>> >>> On 27 February 2012 08:51, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < > so.cool....@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> >>>> .i ko'a se zbasu zi'o lo plini pagbu > > >> >>> >>>> .i o'a le mi ko'e cu vasru lo pagbu be lu'o ko'e > > > > >> >>> >>> ki'a .i ma vasru > > > > >> >>> >>>> Ok, and then what? > > >> >>> >>>> mu'omi'e jongausib > > > > >> >>> >>>> Den m=E5ndagen den 27:e februari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< > > >> eyeo...@gmail.com>: > > >> >>> >>>>> .i ko'a goi ta > > >> >>> >>>>> rokci< > > >>http://outdoordesignbylucas.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/1-10-11-charc= . > .. > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to > lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > > > -- > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --bcaec554d6dc58c46704ba34256e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ki'a mo

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 5:49 A= M, ianek <janek37= @gmail.com> wrote:
ko'a rokci i ko'e grana i mo

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 1 Mar, 10:40, Jonathan Jones <ey= eo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I nearly forgot. This is supposed to a be a group thing, so more than = one
> person ought to be responding, as well. If the players are capable, I&= #39;m
> willing to skip past basic selbri and assume everyone's at least f= amiliar
> with grammar as laid out in L4B or equivalent.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Jones= <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > > As I said, the game is a learning one. Specifically, this game is= designed
> > to teach someone a new language from nothing, learning words, gra= mmar, etc.
> > by playing the game.
>
> > Basically, your answers were overly complicated. There's no r= ule that says
> > you can't use stuff that hasn't been introduced, but I= 9;m betting that's
> > because it's not expected for the players to know anything th= at hasn't.
>
> > In any case, the reason why {ko'a rokci} is the answer to {ko= 'a mo} is
> > because all you're expected to know is {.i ko'a goi ta ro= kci .i ko'e goi ta
> > grana}
>
> > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool....@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> well, I see myself as a lojban beginner. I understand your re= ply, but I
> >> will not try to answer in lojban. I get your point to make th= ings simple
> >> for beginners, but I don't really get the rules for this = game. And if the
> >> content is pretty pointless, the whole thing seem pretty poin= tless, even
> >> for =E0 beginner as me. Sorry, for thinking too much.
> >> fa'omi'e jongausib
>
> >> Den torsdagen den 1:e mars 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones<= ;eyeo...@gmail.com>:
>
> >> > ti xe cilre nunkei .i do duspei .i ji'a le vi nunkei= cu tese zu'edji ro
> >> nintadni .i ku'inai lo bridi cu tese zu'edji lo sampu=
>
> >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <=
> >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > .i go'e gi'e go'a .i .ienaidai lo grana jena= i rokci ku me ko'a .o ko'e
>
> >> > 2012/2/29 Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com>
>
> >> >> to .i ko'a je'a rokci toi
>
> >> >> .i xu ko'a grana
> >> >> .i xu ko'e rokci
>
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd &= lt;
> >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> .i je'a ko'a rokci gi'e me lo rokci = .i je'a ko'e grana gi'e me lo
> >> grana .i ku'i ko'a mo ko'e
>
> >> >>> Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 skrev Jonath= an Jones<
> >> eyeo...@gmail.com<= /a>>:
> >> >>> > go'i najenai go'e= .i ko'a rokci .i ko'a me lo rokci .i ko'e grana
> >> .i ko'e me lo grana
>
> >> >>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Sebastian = Fr=F6jd <
> >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> > .i ko'a pe lo plini cu cmalu
> >> >>> > .i ku'i ko'e na'e go'i ni&#= 39;i ma
>
> >> >>> > Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 skrev J= onathan Jones<
> >> eyeo...@gmail.com<= /a>>:
> >> >>> >> .i ko'a mo to ko&= #39;a me ma toi .i ko'e mo to ko'e me ma toi
>
> >> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM, = Jonathan Jones <
eyeo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >>> >> lo se nunkei cu cmene lu lo do ckiku ma= zvati li'u
>
> >> >>> >> lo se skicu cu zvati zo'oi.
http://lodockikumazvati.= org
>
> >> >>> >> .i ko'a mo .i ko'e mo
>
> >> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Sebast= ian Fr=F6jd <
> >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> >> je'e .i o'anai.u'i
> >> >>> >> .i ma te ci'erkei ti .uanai
>
> >> >>> >> Den m=E5ndagen den 27:e februari 2012 s= krev Jonathan Jones<
> >> eyeo...@gmail.com<= /a>>:
> >> >>> >>> lo'u le mi ko= 'e le'u na gendra .i.e'u ko cusku la'ede'u bau lo
> >> glibau
>
> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Se= bastian Fr=F6jd <
> >> so.cool....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> >>> lo pagbu be lu'o ko'e si ko= 'a goi le rokci poi se pixra
>
> >> >>> >>> 2012/2/27 Felipe Gon=E7alves = Assis <felipeg.as...@gmail.co= m>
>
> >> >>> >>> On 27 February 2012 08:51, Sebastia= n Fr=F6jd <so.cool....@gmail.co= m>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> .i ko'a se zbasu zi'o l= o plini pagbu
> >> >>> >>>> .i o'a le mi ko'e cu va= sru lo pagbu be lu'o ko'e
>
> >> >>> >>> ki'a .i ma vasru
>
> >> >>> >>>> Ok, and then what?
> >> >>> >>>> mu'omi'e jongausib
>
> >> >>> >>>> Den m=E5ndagen den 27:e februar= i 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones<
> >> eyeo...@gmail.com<= /a>>:
> >> >>> >>>>> .i ko'= ;a goi ta
> >> >>> >>>>> rokci<
> >>
http://outdoordesignbylucas.fi= les.wordpress.com/2011/01/1-10-11-charc...
>
> >> --
> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the G= oogle Groups
> >> "Lojban Beginners" group.
> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
> >> For more options, visit this group at
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl= =3Den.
>
> > --
> > mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu = do zo'o
> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
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