Received: from mail-tul01m020-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:38185) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3Yx7-0007ZZ-Ap; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:19:49 -0800 Received: by obbuo6 with SMTP id uo6sf1611520obb.16 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCOO27LuODBDS1sT6BBoEKPuV1w@googlegroups.com designates 10.236.180.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.180.2; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCOO27LuODBDS1sT6BBoEKPuV1w@googlegroups.com designates 10.236.180.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCOO27LuODBDS1sT6BBoEKPuV1w@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCOO27LuODBDS1sT6BBoEKPuV1w@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.180.2]) by 10.236.180.2 with SMTP id i2mr4737177yhm.14.1330719578920 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:19:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=34ZXOuCc4H4cqpKAxtxHqQlcTH+5ZWuPzG7xQVrMWvg=; b=qjEEkVlskg4qmax+vT9Qo5GTwR5BH2uzHipPLR2XzWDXpLuuKzvjmOxFhxw5NheMUa 23Og9lg5lxjMJ+FuqH/dngWalGXrVqEA1OGyU0+EDKhrCkQA5UAsDKT4yzP1aWWE/Nec RW/LAORBUgBGtpsCgB20pyyboCbzbN9crvwwo= Received: by 10.236.180.2 with SMTP id i2mr1378805yhm.14.1330719570896; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:19:30 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.189.38 with SMTP id r38ls2501386anp.4.gmail; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:19:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.187.42 with SMTP id x30mr1378138yhm.10.1330719569982; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by i6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:19:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:19:29 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <403edab5-64d7-4856-8d16-cabd74672668@i6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] skina fanva From: iesk To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: pa.fae@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pa.fae@gmx.de designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pa.fae@gmx.de; dkim=pass header.i=@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / coi lojbo I hope one way (for me) to learn Lojban is to try and use it. So, for my personal amusement, I tried to translate this clip (le te skina ku pendo): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVmW92vwNRWw (There are subtitles in English, among others.) The clip is quite nice. :) This is what I came up with (quite longwinded in comparison to the Esperanto original, btw): --- lo dilnu zo'u ca'o lo na'arki'o loi remna cu jmive bu'u lo dy. ctino noi ze'epu nalckape .i ku'i lo vindu gundi .a ke'unai lo nu ciplanli be bu'u lo mipri skegunku'a be lo fenki cu rinka lo nu morsi dilnu gunta ni'o fi'o ralju xe draci la roberton. kamarelen. ko lifri tu'a la roberton. kamarelen. .e le nonbandu tcadu .e le fenki skepre .i je go'i lo nu morsi dilnu gunta --- So, I guess there are several problems. First of all, I=92m not sure about the way I rendered the title. I have, of course, no idea about Lojbanistani conventions for film titles, and I don=92t know if this is elegant. Furthermore, the original has a strange causal (is it?) sentence: ~ "Poisonous industry, experiments [=85] of a madman lead to blabla." The industry does not seem to have much to do with the experiments, but in Lojban I suspect you can=92t just enumerate without specifying the relation between those two causes. ".a ke'unai" is probably rubbish, though. Does the "fi'o" construction make sense? Oh, and I made up "na'arki'o" for "millennia" and "skegunku'a" for "laboratory"; not sure about those, neither. I=92d be glad to here comments and corrections. a'u ki'e (ta'o zoi gy subtitle gy se fanva fu ma) mu'o mi'e iesk --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.