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 Content preview:  I suggest starting with 2. mi me la .clalis. 3. ta me la .djan.
    4. zo .djan. cmene ta Why use SE right at the beginning? [...] 
 
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I suggest starting with

2. mi me la .clalis.
3. ta me la .djan.
4. zo .djan. cmene ta

Why use SE right at the beginning?

Also, I recommend using the ti-series in place of the ko'a-series.
Using the latter while pointing can cause so much confusion...

In 12 we may do

12. lo prenu cu zvati tu



Other suggestions:

17. doi .sam. ta mo / sedyta'u (no regard for the original)
18. ti sedyta'u .i mi jgari lo sedyta'u lo xance .i mi xance jgari lo sedyt=
a'u

(By the way, any particular reason for using {sedyta'u} instead of {mapku}?=
)

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

On 3 March 2012 10:12, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's my translation thus far. I'm going to sleep. Hopefully someone els=
e
> will have contributed a few panels by the time I wake up. I can say from =
the
> experience the hardest part is figuring out what the ceqli words mean.
>
> Anyway, feel free to comment and add suggestions.
>
> 1. coi
> 2. mi se cmene zo.clalis.
>
> 3. ko'a goi la.djan.
> 4. ko'a se cmene zo.djan.
> 5. cy: coi.djan.
> =A0=A0=A0 dy: coi.clalis.
>
> 6. mi ninmu
> 7. ko'a nanmu .i la.djan. nanmu
> 8. cy: mi ninmu .i do nanmu
> =A0 =A0dy: mi nanmu .i do ninmu
> 9. cy: ko'a nanmu
> =A0 =A0dy: ko'e ninmu
> 10. mi zvati ti
> 11. do zvati ta
> 12. ko'i zvati tu
> 13. mi .e do zvati ti .i mi'o zvati ti
> 14. mi .e ko'i zvati ti .i mi'a zvati ti
> 15. do .e ko'i zvati ta .i do'o zvati ta
> 16. cy: mi se cmene zo.clalis. .ije ko'a se cmene zo.djan. .i ma cmene do
> =A0 =A0 =A0sy:mi se cmene zo.sam.
>
> 17. cy: do ralte lo ta mo vau doi.sam.
> =A0 =A0 =A0sy: mi ralte lo sedyta'u
> 18. ti me lo mi sedyta'u .i mi ralte lo mi sedyta'u di'o lo xance .i mi
> xanra'e lo mi sedyta'u
>
> 19. cy: xu ta me lo do sedyta'u
> =A0 =A0 =A0sy: go'i .i ti me lo mi sedyta'u
> 20. cy: do ralte lo ta mo vau doi.djan.
> =A0 =A0 =A0dy: mi ralte lo tankytu'u .i ti me lo mi tankytu'u
> 21. ti me lo la.sam. sedyta'u .ije ti me lo la.djan. tankytu'u
> 22. sy: ta mo doi.clalis.
> 23. cy: ta gerku
> =A0 =A0 =A0sy: xu ta me lo do gerku
> 24. nago'i .i ta na me lo mi gerku .i ta me lo la.djan. gerku
> 25. sy: doi.djan. ma cmene lo do gerku
> =A0 =A0 =A0dy: cmene zo.flyfis.
>
> 26. dy: la.flyfis. dalpe'o mi
> =A0 =A0 =A0sy: xu la.clalis. ralte ji'a lo dalpe'o
> 27. sy: go'i .i lo cy. dalpe'o na.ue gerku .i ri mlatu .i lo mlatu cu se
> cmene zo snime (I don't how to attach PU to UI, so I left out "je" of
> "jiqje".)
>
> 28. xu la snime cu mlatu .i sny. barda.iepei mlatu
> 29. go'i .i la snime cu barda .i ri tcebra
> 30. lo vi mlatu cu barda .i lo vu mlatu cu cmalu
> 31. lo vi mlatu cu barda fi lo vu mlatu .i lo vu mlatu cu cmalu fi lo vi
> mlatu
> 32. sy: xu la.flyfis. barda gerku
> =A0 =A0 =A0cy: nago'i .i la.flyfis. barda najenai cmalu .i ri na'obra
> 33. cmalu sedyta'u ... barda sedyta'u ... na'obra sedyta'u
> 34. barda zdani ... cmalu zdani ... na'obra zdani
> 35. sy: la.djan. zvati ma
> =A0 =A0 =A0cy: ri zvati tu
> 36. sy: mi zvati ma
> =A0 =A0 =A0cy: do zvati ta vau doi.sam.
> 37. sy: do xabju ma doi.clalis.
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 cy: mi xabju lo vu cmalu zdani
> 38. sy: la.djan. xabju ma
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 cy: la.djan. xabju ji'a lo vu cmalu zdani
> 39. sy: xu do .e la.djan. xabju lo vu cmalu zdani
> =A0=A0=A0=A0 cy: go'i .i mi'a kanxa'u
> 40. la.djan. mi speni .i la.djan. nakspe mi .ije mi fetspe dy. .i mi'a me=
 lo
> nakspe je fetspe gi'e kanxa'u
> 41. mi .e la.djan. .e la snime .e la.flyfis. kanxa'u lo vu cmalu zdani .i=
 ro
> mi'a vu kanxa'u
> 42.
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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