Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:53755) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3zaY-00028s-EA; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:46:19 -0800 Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10sf2837419eaa.16 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRC19sr6BBoEsLdkBg@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.131.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.131.67; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRC19sr6BBoEsLdkBg@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.131.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRC19sr6BBoEsLdkBg@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCJbznvHdFRC19sr6BBoEsLdkBg@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.131.67]) by 10.204.131.67 with SMTP id w3mr4482142bks.33.1330821966916 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:46:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pY2seYZ+JfjOp2mnXEQxAbXzvBUzKjiY6AMOnweuDho=; b=dziw+n32OTsq/x64yqUVqNK1IAtjc0rSvWRSF8hM/gUuZvAHxz4fTbMou/nEdtns66 mj1Hl9UM5nuSs72WuOTyjHqW13tg9k6rS4WgPWTLSBjQMhwJIR19kFGPJr/fSKutPaH4 cIIUO5xOHHbOAY+MO3MwKeX4uBBs1Lv2MIdXU= Received: by 10.204.131.67 with SMTP id w3mr1319611bks.33.1330821941444; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:41 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.165.76 with SMTP id h12ls5467215bky.5.gmail; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.123.6 with SMTP id gi6mr1202661bkc.5.1330821940643; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.123.6 with SMTP id gi6mr1202660bkc.5.1330821940618; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si11986457bko.3.2012.03.03.16.45.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3so6424604lag.27 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 10.152.133.144 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.133.144; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.133.144]) by 10.152.133.144 with SMTP id pc16mr14021602lab.0.1330821940302 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.133.144 with SMTP id pc16mr11554533lab.0.1330821940193; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 16:45:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.67.41 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 16:45:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1740b107f892bce4c0142020ea99f057@ceqli.pbworks.com> <705C7B44-4FFD-42CF-8596-0E0CAFFCA4CC@mac.com> <0B73376C-9DA7-4231-9845-BBEDE1E4B4B8@mac.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 19:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Fwd: Reuse request To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042dfea9012a4a04ba602151 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d042dfea9012a4a04ba602151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or avoid that problem and use {avra'Am}. stevo On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I misinterpreted the capital I (i) as a lowercase l (L), too. > > You want EIbryxam, then. Or Eibryxam, or EIbry'am, or Eibry'em. In all > cases, the 'e' has to be capitalized to be stressed. Just capitalizing th= e > 'i' makes an extra syllable: e-I-bry-xam. > > stevo > > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > >> wait. what? I said eibryxam (with e and i capitalized) not elbryxam >> (with only e capitalized). does that change it? I say the name Abraham >> with 3 syllables. >> On Mar 3, 2012 7:07 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote= : >> >>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Luke Bergen >>> wrote: >>> > How would you say {la .EIbryxam.} with the >>> > proper pronunciation without capitals (or maybe accent marks or >>> something)? >>> >>> The normal stress for ".elbryxam." is on the "e", the penultimate >>> syllable not counting y-syllables or consonantal syllables, just like >>> for the lujvo "melbyxra". >>> >>> mu'o mi'e xorxes >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d042dfea9012a4a04ba602151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or avoid that problem and use {avra'Am}.=A0

stevo
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM, MorphemeAdd= ict <lytlesw@gmai= l.com> wrote:
I misinterpreted the capital I (i) as a lowercase l (L), too.=A0=

You want EIbryxam, then. Or Eibr= yxam, or EIbry'am, or Eibry'em. In all cases, the 'e' has t= o be capitalized to be stressed. Just capitalizing the 'i' makes an= extra syllable: e-I-bry-xam.

= stevo

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:35 PM, = Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

wait. what?=A0 I said eibryxam (with e an= d i capitalized) not elbryxam (with only e capitalized).=A0 does that chang= e it?=A0 I say the name Abraham with 3 syllables.=A0

On Mar 3, 2012 7:07 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas&q= uot; <jjllambi= as@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0How would you say {la .EIbryxam.} with the
> proper=A0pronunciation=A0without capitals (or maybe accent marks or so= mething)?

The normal stress for ".elbryxam." is on the "e", the p= enultimate
syllable not counting y-syllables or consonantal syllables, just like
for the lujvo "melbyxra".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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