Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:52642) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S4KJC-00038Z-0S; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:47 -0800 Received: by wera1 with SMTP id a1sf3676986wer.16 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDV5M_6BBoE8GE80w@googlegroups.com designates 10.205.114.13 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.205.114.13; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDV5M_6BBoE8GE80w@googlegroups.com designates 10.205.114.13 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDV5M_6BBoE8GE80w@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDV5M_6BBoE8GE80w@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.205.114.13]) by 10.205.114.13 with SMTP id ey13mr4981573bkc.32.1330901614382 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mhZAINgOhd4R4bU/qp8IwTBcn1c9DFhBRZ6GPWkqWVU=; b=3Q5xghUqgHystsrYIFGUe4FP9+RRIhs/rkC3g66ugLnXWAzJkmzak0YT7OiRFxa1lv HUyXt3uo7aZe9tCOBSoz09Q9C6OPxNxIjlu3tRX9RY6o2VF2juQaPsY76qvH+0tGNNVF nDw+dallisPwfZd89KwRP87S87KC1ylVsM6Q8= Received: by 10.205.114.13 with SMTP id ey13mr1476009bkc.32.1330901589096; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.45.87 with SMTP id d23ls5867608bkf.2.gmail; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.123.6 with SMTP id gi6mr1378647bkc.5.1330901587465; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.123.6 with SMTP id gi6mr1378646bkc.5.1330901587441; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si15562748bkz.0.2012.03.04.14.53.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.44; Received: by lagj5 with SMTP id j5so6393038lag.17 for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 10.112.25.40 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.25.40; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.25.40]) by 10.112.25.40 with SMTP id z8mr8180914lbf.11.1330901587143 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.25.40 with SMTP id z8mr6677010lbf.11.1330901587058; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 14:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Mar 2012 14:53:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201203040828.29096.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <8929c895-6264-4ae8-b9ff-1d3b3094d404@gr6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <201203040828.29096.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 15:53:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Let's do something like this for Lojban! From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040122a353e10a04ba72ac79 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d040122a353e10a04ba72ac79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday, March 04, 2012 06:03:06 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I'm sorry, I need an example of what you would consider having but not > > possessing to know what you mean. > > mi javni do la .triktrak. i do ponse le kelci dacti .i mi tolcau pamu rok= ci > .ije do tolcau pamu drata rokci .iku'i do ponse ro cino rokci > > I'm sorry, I don't understand that. First of all, "I am a rule mandating you within system Trick Track" makes no sense. I'm going to assume that you meant something like {mi .e do se nunkei la.triktrak.}, and further, I'm going to assume that Trick Track is a game like Othello, based off your mentioning of two kinds of rocks. ca lonu la.otelos. se nunkei ku re kelci cu punji lo blabi rokci pe lo pamoi kelci ge'u .e lo xekri rokci pe lo remoi kelci lo kelta'o I can agree that it is possible for something to be associated with a person without it being in that person's possession, but I still don't see how you could, for example, have something in your hand, and it not be in your possession. You're literally holding it. Whether or not it belongs to you, it is currently in your possession. ganai cino rokci cu cpana lo mi xance gi mi ralte cino rokci .i ganai pimu rokci cu srana lo remoi kelci gi mi ralte pamu rokci pe lo remoi kelci > mu'omi'e .pier. > -- > La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. > Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu= > wrote:
On Sunday, March 04, 2012 06:03:06 Jonathan Jones wrote:<= br> > I'm sorry, I need an example of what you would consider having but= not
> possessing to know what you mean.

mi javni do la .triktrak. i do ponse le kelci dacti .i mi tolcau pamu= rokci
.ije do tolcau pamu drata rokci .iku'i do ponse ro cino rokci


I'm sorry, I don'= t understand that. First of all, "I am a rule mandating you within sys= tem Trick Track" makes no sense.

I'm going to assume that y= ou meant something like {mi .e do se nunkei la.triktrak.}, and further, I&#= 39;m going to assume that Trick Track is a game like Othello, based off you= r mentioning of two kinds of rocks.

ca lonu la.otelos. se nunkei ku re kelci cu punji lo blabi rokci pe lo = pamoi kelci ge'u .e lo xekri rokci pe lo remoi kelci lo kelta'o
=
I can agree that it is possible for something to be associated with a p= erson without it being in that person's possession, but I still don'= ;t see how you could, for example, have something in your hand, and it not = be in your possession. You're literally holding it. Whether or not it b= elongs to you, it is currently in your possession.

ganai cino rokci cu cpana lo mi xance gi mi ralte cino rokci .i ganai p= imu rokci cu srana lo remoi kelci gi mi ralte pamu rokci pe lo remoi kelci<= br>=A0
mu'omi'e .pier.
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La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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