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If I was was talking about a specific microbe I was  observing I could
use {le} right?

On Mar 5, 8:33=A0pm, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You also probably don't want to use {le}.
>
> My heuristic is that any time you would use an infinitive in English
> (or another similar natlang) you probably want to consider using an
> abstractor in lojban.
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> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:08 PM, RexScientiarum <amt2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Okay thanks.
>
> > .i mi cu pilno lo cmactatci lo nu catlu lo jurme
>
> > was very similar to what I came up with first but I didn't know to use
> > nu (so it was wrong). Wow, abstractors are super useful then it seems.
> > I'll have to read up on them, but ".i mi cu zgana lo jurme le
> > cmactatci" is still acceptable right?
>
> > On Mar 5, 7:45=A0pm, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'd say {mi catlu lo jurme sepi'o lo cmactatci} if you want to
> >> emphasize the looking portion (possibly use {lanli} instead of
> >> {catlu}) and {mi pilno lo cmactatci lo nu catlu lo jurme} if you want
> >> to emphasize the use of the microscope. Alternatively, {mi pilno lo
> >> cmactatci tu'a lo jurme} if you are okay with losing some precision
> >> (it's pretty clear what you're using a microscope to do to bacteria
> >> anyway.
>
> >> You could even say {cmactatci mi lo jurme} if you wanted to be
> >> particularly terse.
>
> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, RexScientiarum <amt2...@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> >> > I am a little confused as to how I can make this sentence:
>
> >> > I use a microscope to look at the microbe.
>
> >> > I guess this is the best way to say this:
>
> >> > .i mi cu zgana lo jurme le cmactatci
>
> >> > At first I used pilno to say that I would use the microscope more li=
ke
> >> > I had originally envisioned the sentence in English but then I
> >> > couldn't figure out I could use that to say I 'used' the microscope =
to
> >> > 'look' at the microbe. =A0There aren't enough sumti x spaces for tha=
t or
> >> > any direct way to relate that x1(I) am using x2(microscope) in manne=
r
> >> > x3(to look at)....... a microbe..... right?
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