Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:46042) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S5027-0003Ew-Gu; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:57 -0800 Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10sf5350875eaa.16 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDbydn6BBoExPFHPg@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.130.85 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.130.85; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDbydn6BBoExPFHPg@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.130.85 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDbydn6BBoExPFHPg@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhDbydn6BBoExPFHPg@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.130.85]) by 10.204.130.85 with SMTP id r21mr8523129bks.0.1331062003869 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=cRobQe/OVzG8DFT20v4BIUUTnm9vnYi/Q/HPD73qi0g=; b=241BTl0p7JsbszvHcQLjQWdyAxKByD9+NF3ZhV/Ten77quVjPr6bRLtaKE28zVctNU 3B3HCsHXyiIrBazWbULW0J0hSjIsqK/JwQqqntzmuICWix1inzIM9btIZ9xlcVJkQZFi zDgQbLSKiYjhp1fJLALNJcVsT5GngWZ4N45wI= Received: by 10.204.130.85 with SMTP id r21mr2519329bks.0.1331061979328; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.42.74 with SMTP id r10ls1297792bke.6.gmail; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.129.15 with SMTP id m15mr294491bks.2.1331061976813; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.129.15 with SMTP id m15mr294490bks.2.1331061976790; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l17si22867517bkb.1.2012.03.06.11.26.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com with SMTP id l5so375453lah.15 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 10.152.104.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.152.104.43; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.152.104.43]) by 10.152.104.43 with SMTP id gb11mr1613391lab.8.1331061976682 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.43 with SMTP id gb11mr1330724lab.8.1331061976564; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <32859217.3726.1330958158411.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbed8> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:26:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "me too" in Lojban From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040713dd4982c504ba9804d6 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d040713dd4982c504ba9804d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Janek wrote: > On 6 March 2012 02:38, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM, gleki > wrote: > >> > >> - It pleases me > >> - Me too > >> > >> How to express the reply compactly in Lojban ? > > > > > > Depending on what is being "me too"ed, you can use ji'a: > > > > abu: mi nelci ti > > by: ji'a go'i > > {go'ira'o}, not {go'i} > No. It's just go'i. The expansion on the above is not abu: mi nelci ti by: ji'a do nelci ti It is abu: mi nelci ti by: ji'a mi nelci ti ra'o is needed to distinguish between A: mi lumci le mi karce B: mi go'i A: I wash my car. B: I wash A=92s car. and A: mi lumci le mi karce B: mi go'i ra'o A: I wash my car. B: I wash B=92s car. CLL 7.6 CLL 20 > > > >> > >> or > >> > >> - Good night ! > >> - [Good night to] you too ! > > > > > > abu: ko lifri lonu xamgu nicte > > by: ji'a go'i > > I'm not sure, but I think this also requires {ra'o} > No. It doesn't. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > >> > >> > >> - di'ai melbi nicte > >> - ??? > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/O-eXmyDbHAwJ. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d040713dd4982c504ba9804d6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Janek <j-sz@o2.pl> wrote:=
On 6 March 2012 02:38, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> - It pleases me
>> - Me too
>>
>> How to express the reply=A0compactly=A0in Lojban ?
>
>
> Depending on what is being "me too"ed, you can use ji'a:=
>
> abu: mi nelci ti
> by: ji'a go'i

{go'ira'o}, not {go'i}

No. It= 9;s just go'i.

The expansion on the above is not

abu: mi = nelci ti
by: ji'a do nelci ti

It is

abu: mi nelci ti by: ji'a mi nelci ti

ra'o is needed to distinguish between
A: mi lumci le mi karce
B: mi go'i

A: I wash my= car.
B: I wash A=92s car.

and

A: mi lumci le mi karce
B: mi go'i ra'o

A: I wash my car.
B: I wash B= =92s car.

CLL 7.6 CLL 20


>
>>
>> or
>>
>> - Good night !
>> - [Good night to] you too !
>
>
> abu: ko lifri lonu xamgu nicte
> by: ji'a go'i

I'm not sure, but I think this also requires {ra'o}

No. It doesn't.

mu'o mi'e ianek

>>
>>
>> - di'ai melbi nicte >> - ???
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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