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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Felipe Gonçalves Assis < felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: > >> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau kei}. > >> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable, > >> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A more > >> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56. > > > > > > z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se nanca is a > > quantity. > > > > z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3 is a quantity that is a function of > something. Otherwise, what could be an answer to the following questions? > {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo} > {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma} > > mu'o > mi'e .asiz. > [...] Content analysis details: (3.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (eyeonus[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FUZZY_CPILL BODY: Attempt to obfuscate words in spam 0.0 HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10 BODY: Message is 5% to 10% HTML obfuscation 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 1.3 DRUGS_ERECTILE_OBFU Obfuscated reference to an erectile drug 2.2 DRUGS_ERECTILE Refers to an erectile drug 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL To: misformatted and free email service --f46d040169b5ed067904baac90ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis < felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: > >> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau kei}. > >> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable, > >> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A more > >> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56. > > > > > > z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se nanca is a > > quantity. > > > > z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3 is a quantity that is a function of > something. Otherwise, what could be an answer to the following questions? > {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo} > {la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma} > > mu'o > mi'e .asiz. > Seriously, stop arguing things without making sure you're right first. zmadu : x1 exceeds/is more than = x 2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by amount/excess x4. z4 is amount by which x1 is more than x2, z3 is the property/quantity in which x1 is more. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alv= es Assis <f= elipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau= kei}.
>> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherabl= e,
>> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A m= ore
>> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 5= 6.
>
>
> z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se nanca is a<= br> > quantity.
>

z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3 is a quantity that is a functio= n of
something. Otherwise, what could be an answer to the following questions? =A0{la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo}
=A0{la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma}

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

Seriously, stop arguing things with= out making sure you're right first.

zmadu: x1 exceeds/is more than x2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by amount/excess x4.

z4 is amount by which x1 is more than x2, z3 is the property/quantity i= n which x1 is more.

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