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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I'm with aionys here. One can argue, that z3 should be a ka/ni abstraction and n2 is a number, but "Semantically, a sumti with “le ni” is a number" CLL 11.5 But I think that putting an exact number (like {li mu}) in z3 wouldn't mean much. 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One can argue, that z3 should be a ka/ni abstraction and n2 is a number, but "Semantically, a sumti with =93le ni=94 is a number" CLL 11.5 But I think that putting an exact number (like {li mu}) in z3 wouldn't mean much. mu'o mi'e ianek On 7 Mar, 20:57, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis < > > > > > > > > > > felipeg.as...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau kei}. > > >> Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable, > > >> you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A mor= e > > >> friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56. > > > > z3 is not a dimension. It is a property or quantity. lo se nanca is a > > > quantity. > > > z4 is a quantity and a {se nanca}. z3 is a quantity that is a function = of > > something. Otherwise, what could be an answer to the following question= s? > > =A0{la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. li xo} > > =A0{la .sam. zmadu la .clalis. lo se nanca be ma} > > > mu'o > > mi'e .asiz. > > Seriously, stop arguing things without making sure you're right first. > > zmadu : x1 exceeds/is more tha= n x > 2 in property/quantity x3 (ka/ni) by amount/excess x4. > > z4 is amount by which x1 is more than x2, z3 is the property/quantity in > which x1 is more. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.