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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {me ko'a} instead of {broda} ?
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You want the term ko'e to refer to the two restaurants collectively, you
want {ko'e goi re gusta}, or {ko'e goi re le gusta} if you want to explicit
about specificity.

If you want to refer to them individually, I don't think that's possible
with only one term.

What you have means the pretty much same thing as what I wrote, although
your ko'e assignment is different and your bridi is obviously much more
complicated:
ko'a ponse lo re me ko'e goi lo gusta
ko'a owns two of something that is amongst (ko'e = one or more things that
actually is a restaraunt).
Ko'a owns two things that are ko'e, where ko'e is "one or more restaraunts"

ko'a ponse ko'e goi re gusta
ko'a owns (ko'e = two restaraunts).
ko'a owns ko'e, where ko'e is "two restaraunts"

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

> No ! What you suggest is that {ko'e} is two restaurants. But I need {ko'e}
> to be each of the restaurants !
>
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2012 9:18:50 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>>
>> I would go with {ko'a ponse ko'e goi re gusta}. It seems to me you're
>> overthinking it a tad.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:35 PM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder how to express the phrase "he is the owner of two cafes" using
>>> {ko'a} ("he") and {ko'e} (each of the cafes)
>>>
>>> {ko'a ponse lo re me ko'e goi lo gusta} ?
>>>
>>> {broda} series won't work if in the following text each of the cafes is
>>> described.
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM, gleki <span=
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name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
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No ! What you suggest is that {ko&#39;e} is two restaurants. But I need {ko=
&#39;e} to be each of the restaurants !<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><b=
r><br>On Friday, March 9, 2012 9:18:50 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:<blockquote c=
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cc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I would go with {ko&#39;a ponse ko&#39;e goi re gusta}. It seems to me you&=
#39;re overthinking it a tad.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar=
 8, 2012 at 9:35 PM, gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is=
.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I wonder how to express the phrase &quot;he =
is the owner of two cafes&quot; using {ko&#39;a} (&quot;he&quot;) and {ko&#=
39;e} (each of the cafes)<div>

<br></div><div>{ko&#39;a ponse lo re me ko&#39;e goi lo gusta} ?</div><div>=
<br></div><div>{broda} series won&#39;t work if in the following text each =
of the cafes is described.</div>

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