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On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:

> re gusta = re lo gusta = "two things which actually are restaurants" =
>> "two restaurants".
>> re lo pa gusta = "one of two things (blah blah)" = "one of two
>> restaurants".
>> lo re gusta = "two of one or more things (blah blah)" = "two of X
>> restaurants", where X is an unstated number.
>>
>
> You have this backward. One of two restaurants is {pa lo re gusta}.
> Source: genrei
>
> No I don't.

How to use xorlo <http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo>

   - lo with an outer quantifier, which is exactly the same thing as just
   sticking a number before an item (i.e. "mu lo bakni" == "mu bakni" == "five
   cows), works pretty much as before: "five things that really are cows".
   - lo's inner quantifier indicates the number of things we're talking
   about....

Also, quoting a source and not linking to it is poor taste. I'm assuming
you mean http://genrei.lojban.org/, in which case the only things that
gives such information are the "Translate" choices, which obviously use
jbofi'e, as it gives the same output, and jbofi'e was made pre-xorlo. The
meanings of inner and outer quantifiers of lo were quite drastically
changed by xorlo.


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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Lindar <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@gmail.com">lindarthebard@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margi=
n-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">re gusta =3D re l=
o gusta =3D &quot;two things which actually are restaurants&quot; =3D &quot=
;two restaurants&quot;.<br>

re lo pa gusta =3D &quot;one of two things (blah blah)&quot; =3D &quot;one =
of two restaurants&quot;.<br>lo re gusta =3D &quot;two of one or more thing=
s (blah blah)&quot; =3D &quot;two of X restaurants&quot;, where X is an uns=
tated number.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>You have this backward. One of two r=
estaurants is {pa lo re gusta}.</div><div>Source: genrei=A0<br></div><div c=
lass=3D"im">

<p></p>

</div></blockquote><div>No I don&#39;t. <br><br><a href=3D"http://www.lojba=
n.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo">How to use xorlo</a><br><ul><li> lo with an ou=
ter quantifier, which is exactly the same thing as=20
just sticking a number before an item (i.e. &quot;mu lo bakni&quot; =3D=3D =
&quot;mu bakni&quot;=20
=3D=3D &quot;five cows), works pretty much as before: &quot;five things tha=
t really=20
are cows&quot;.
</li><li> lo&#39;s inner quantifier indicates the number of things we&#39;r=
e talking about....</li></ul>Also, quoting a source and not linking to it i=
s poor taste. I&#39;m assuming you mean <a href=3D"http://genrei.lojban.org=
/">http://genrei.lojban.org/</a>, in which case the only things that gives =
such information are the &quot;Translate&quot; choices, which obviously use=
 jbofi&#39;e, as it gives the same output, and jbofi&#39;e was made pre-xor=
lo. The meanings of inner and outer quantifiers of lo were quite drasticall=
y changed by xorlo.<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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