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[98.159.200.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s3sm8027121igw.17.2012.03.10.22.42.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:42:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] coi rodo References: From: Devin Prater X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9B176) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4DF1FFE3-500E-443F-855F-2E2BD6E666DB@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:42:45 -0600 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4F5ED3A4-F742-4BF1-88C6-F94F0E0ECFE1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail-4F5ED3A4-F742-4BF1-88C6-F94F0E0ECFE1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, computer braille is an atempt to fit all ascy characters into braille= code. All punctuation maps to a single dot pattern, while in grade 2 Engli= sh braille, there are alreaviation-like things, known as contractions, that= were made to make braille faster to read and to minimize paper usage. I've= now found a Lojban Dictionary app on the iOS app store. I'll probably be u= sing that a lot. Hmm, I was thinking a while ago that it'd be pretty good i= f someone made an audio book on Lojban. I might do one someday. It'd also b= e good if books on Lojban were in the iBooks store and the Google Books sto= res.=20 Sent from my iPod On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > First of all, WELCOME! It's always nice to meet nintadni (new students (o= f Lojban)). I hope you find your stay in jbogugde enjoyable. >=20 > Secondly, not being blind, I've never really delved into braille much, so= I wasn't aware there's were any kinds other than the straight mapping of l= etter->bump code. This is news to me. What is "computer braille"? >=20 > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Devin Prater wr= ote: > coi rodo .i > I am new to the list, well I joined a month or so ago, but didn't write b= ecause I always forgot to do so. In my free time after school and sometimes= during class, I read "An Introduction to Lojban". I gathered it from the w= ebsite in a .txt, text, file and put it on my reading device. Note to all b= lind Lojbanists, you might prefer using computer braille when reading Lojba= n. Anyways, I'm a little past the chapter on quotations, and I might re-rea= d some things, because I need to build up my vocabulary. I've also gotten a= friend from school interested, and that friend is a little past learning a= bout gismu and stuff. I don't really have any questions right now, just wa= nted you all to be aware of my presence on the list. > Oh wait, one question just made its way into my mind, I wonder, since the= re is an Esperanto braille code, I wonder if there will be a Lojban braille= code. Braille, for anyone, well most of you, is the system blind people us= e to read. Perhaps computer braille will do, since its pretty universal, I = think. Yes, computer braille would make since for a language that tries to = be as usable by everyone as possible. >=20 > Sent from my iPod >=20 > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >=20 > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --Apple-Mail-4F5ED3A4-F742-4BF1-88C6-F94F0E0ECFE1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Well, computer braille is= an atempt to fit all ascy characters into braille code. All punctuation ma= ps to a single dot pattern, while in grade 2 English braille, there are alr= eaviation-like things, known as contractions, that were made to make braill= e faster to read and to minimize paper usage. I've now found a Lojban Dicti= onary app on the iOS app store. I'll probably be using that a lot. Hmm, I w= as thinking a while ago that it'd be pretty good if someone made an audio b= ook on Lojban. I might do one someday. It'd also be good if books on Lojban= were in the iBooks store and the Google Books stores. 

Sent fr= om my iPod

On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Jones <<= a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
First of all, WELCOME! It'= s always nice to meet nintadni (new students (of Lojban)). I hope you find = your stay in jbogugde enjoyable.

Secondly, not being blind, I've nev= er really delved into braille much, so I wasn't aware there's were any kind= s other than the straight mapping of letter->bump code. This is news to = me. What is "computer braille"?

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Devin Prate= r <r.d.t.pra= ter@gmail.com> wrote:
coi rodo .i
I am new to the list, well I joined a month or so ago, but didn't write bec= ause I always forgot to do so. In my free time after school and sometimes d= uring class, I read "An Introduction to Lojban". I gathered it from the web= site in a .txt, text, file and put it on my reading device. Note to all bli= nd Lojbanists, you might prefer using computer braille when reading Lojban.= Anyways, I'm a little past the chapter on quotations, and I might re-read = some things, because I need to build up my vocabulary. I've also gotten a f= riend from school interested, and that friend is a little past learning abo= ut gismu and stuff. I  don't really have any questions right now, just= wanted you all to be aware of my presence on the list.
Oh wait, one question just made its way into my mind, I wonder, since there= is an Esperanto braille code, I wonder if there will be a Lojban braille c= ode. Braille, for anyone, well most of you, is the system blind people use = to read. Perhaps computer braille will do, since its pretty universal, I th= ink. Yes, computer braille would make since for a language that tries to be= as usable by everyone as possible.

Sent from my iPod

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