Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:59134) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Dn4-0008F5-Cb; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:32:31 -0700 Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3sf5303984lag.16 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:32:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MTrV+9lYya4FRjtPizdufZRV3yEo8aLDCFYA2nlQvIk=; b=Ne79iHUM4X+CDLGpEExPsxk1lPNf+OROW6PKtITpEYftlqOEZR3fX04pcTFRupHxap vPcetFNGJOcu1Mm+UnjxqSKdsh0qHYxF3wu1ZK933qTgehvZ2sbJ9sn2Uu8TCQGFL6D3 7NEkpYaBsr1HB3PQ4gwsNixeeGRyIhoIsP/fE= Received: by 10.205.134.132 with SMTP id ic4mr1252236bkc.28.1331591518404; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.226.131 with SMTP id iw3ls10011687bkb.4.gmail; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.123.6 with SMTP id gi6mr1054315bkc.5.1331591516392; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.123.6 with SMTP id gi6mr1054314bkc.5.1331591516367; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ba12si19143956bkb.2.2012.03.12.15.31.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com with SMTP id l5so4195799lah.15 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.100 with SMTP id ip4mr10578060lab.1.1331591516175; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:31:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <093c3f38-9570-4c7d-8f9d-df42233ad2e9@l14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> References: <093c3f38-9570-4c7d-8f9d-df42233ad2e9@l14g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:31:56 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Checking my intuition: translating "Why am I so tired?" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040838fd4ebbf704bb134f85 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d040838fd4ebbf704bb134f85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In the context of "Why am I so tired", I take "so" to be more similar to {mutce} than anything else. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM, ianek wrote: > I don't think {mu'i} is the correct choice here, you're not tired > because something motivates you (or are you?). I would use {ri'a}, > because tiredness is your physical reaction. > And {ni} is not quite right pe'i. You're saying "Why [something] is a > quantity of my tiredness [measured on some scale]". xorxes translate > "so" as {tai}, but I doubt it's always good. Personally I would > translate it as {paunai ri'a ma mi mutce tatpi}, but this may be > controversial. "So" is so strange a word... > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On 12 Mar, 22:03, ".arpis." wrote: > > {.i mu'i ma pau nai ni mi tatpi} > > > > Also, I think I might be getting blocked by a spam filter or something > > (Either that or my questions and responses are really boring). > > {e'o ko doi da spuda} > > Please someone respond. > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think {mu'i} is the correct = choice here, you're not tired
because something motivates you (or are you?). I would use {ri'a},
because tiredness is your physical reaction.
And {ni} is not quite right pe'i. You're saying "Why [somethin= g] is a
quantity of my tiredness [measured on some scale]". xorxes translate "so" as {tai}, but I doubt it's always good. Personally I wou= ld
translate it as {paunai ri'a ma mi mutce tatpi}, but this may be
controversial. "So" is so strange a word...

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 12 Mar, 22:03, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> {.i mu'i ma pau nai ni mi tatpi}
>
> Also, I think I might be getting blocked by a spam filter or something=
> (Either that or my questions and responses are really boring).
> {e'o ko doi da spuda}
> Please someone respond.
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .arpis.

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