Received: from mail-iy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:60969) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7U6O-0001cb-2u; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:57:33 -0700 Received: by iahk25 with SMTP id k25sf1445719iah.16 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:57:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ng4iiRTCxhrFEayJ9I6IiqU8HglIG7F+OGyWJEJY3AA=; b=2oibIcIYqYeMeiwiH3iSXciraM3JvjkQcTTA3SWTdM8/cVA0MAPC5AhKQusbVVbXW9 EjGuu1rKX8yj0LsaPPMOvUboOnO3HHY/QgKowKG/c+BiEu4lX1tn7ak/oNbZrp2ZKpFn NUhi9hB+Zdi4nki6vNWfFOSeqanOAiLIHpTiY= Received: by 10.236.176.6 with SMTP id a6mr2683750yhm.12.1331654221131; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:57:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.185.132 with SMTP id u4ls544980yhm.1.gmail; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.130.31 with SMTP id h31mr6549866ann.3.1331654219690; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.130.31 with SMTP id h31mr6549865ann.3.1331654219643; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f171.google.com (mail-gy0-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g49si495517yhe.6.2012.03.13.08.56.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of adamlopresto@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.171; Received: by mail-gy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z17so896457ghb.30 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.7.102 with SMTP id i6mr12305038oea.9.1331654219473; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.27.9 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:56:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Lopresto Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:56:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Checking my intuition; how would you say this? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: adamlopresto@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of adamlopresto@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=adamlopresto@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb2050ab7214304bb21e8ae X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb2050ab7214304bb21e8ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mi xadni je menli tatpi On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:37 PM, .arpis. wrot= e: > "I am tired, both physically and mentally." (Although what I'd really > like to say is more like "Je suis fatigu=E9 et j'ai someil.") > In the lojban, I opt for precision over the parallelism: > > {.i mi tatpi le'a ge lo si'o xadni gi lo si'o sipna} > > Is {le'a} appropriate here? > Is {si'o} appropriate? (I initially went with {su'u}) > I seem to recall the fact that {.i mi tatpi le'a lo si'o ge xadni gi > sipna} means something fundamentally different, but I can't recall > what; I'd prefer to use this phrasing if it still expresses what I > mean, since it's more compact and doesn't repeat {lo si'o}. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --e89a8fb2050ab7214304bb21e8ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mi xadni je menli tatpi

On Sun, Mar 11, 2= 012 at 10:37 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> "I am tired, both physically and mentally." (Although what I'= d really
like to say is more like "Je suis fatigu=E9 et j'ai someil.")=
In the lojban, I opt for precision over the parallelism:

{.i mi tatpi le'a ge lo si'o xadni gi lo si'o sipna}

Is {le'a} appropriate here?
Is {si'o} appropriate? (I initially went with {su'u})
I seem to recall the fact that {.i mi tatpi le'a lo si'o ge xadni g= i
sipna} means something fundamentally different, but I can't recall
what; I'd prefer to use this phrasing if it still expresses what I
mean, since it's more compact and doesn't repeat {lo si'o}.

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mu'o mi'e .arpis.

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