Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:60273) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7dfW-0005pf-U9; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:10:30 -0700 Received: by yhkk25 with SMTP id k25sf1897233yhk.16 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nBWy/Lf/d5QPEkxgjUOBr7VnsVK0OEsveH+qCBMEMwU=; b=aRJB7BNMGHn0mmmhlUlfQvAwA/XHCB2fzrSRFT5Qd3XnSQuKwbdPP5/4D7z37JVqO1 sOQU3hDnZR9S2uIT+yxHCqCmy6d/E9eVeeXmm9ypYdy6uthCeSmohrbolpAMenmMIpaO G2JV8e5al2eEkT5vZgD/nLOu5oBNYoQ+8V3rs= Received: by 10.236.136.39 with SMTP id v27mr151910yhi.8.1331690996695; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:09:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.185.132 with SMTP id u4ls1496803yhm.1.gmail; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.119.242 with SMTP id n78mr1274982yhh.4.1331690995575; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.119.242 with SMTP id n78mr1274981yhh.4.1331690995566; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t62si1329981yhj.2.2012.03.13.19.09.55; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77385226D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:09:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Phrasing question: time intervals Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:09:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201203132209.51268.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote: > "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00" > {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e lo > temci be li pa bei li mu be'o} > > Is the use of {temci} correct here? {ze'a}? > Is there a shorter way to say it? I'd say "mi zifre ca li so pi'e cino bi'obo li pano pi'e cino .e li pa pi'e bi'obo li mu pi'e". jbofi'e doesn't like that; it wants "lo'o" (the terminator for "li") before "bi'o". One of the "bo" is necessary but the other isn't. I assume that the first period is in the morning and the second is in the afternoon. To make that clear, I'd say "li pano pi'e cino pe le cerni ... li mu pi'e pe le vanci" or "li paci pi'e bi'o li paze pi'e". If you're an astronomer, you probably want to reverse the assumption. "pe le cerni" associates only with "li pano pi'e cino", so if the interval crosses noon, you can tag the first time with "pe le cerni" and the second with "pe le vanci" (or tag both with "pe le donri"). If you want to tag the whole time interval with "pe le cerni", I'm not sure. jbofi'e balks at "ke". btw, "zilfre" is a typo; it means something like "to be fertile, but ignoring whether any offspring or crop is produced". Pierre -- loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.