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On 13 March 2012 23:09, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote:
>> "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00"
>> {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e lo
>> temci be li pa bei li mu be'o}
>>
>> Is the use of {temci} correct here? {ze'a}?

temci2 and temci3 are not numbers, but events.
You may use {lo se tcika be li...}.

>> Is there a shorter way to say it?
>

My suggestion is
  {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}.

You may use {e} instead of {jo'u} if you prefer.
You could use a single mekso with the union-operator {jo'e}, but I recommend
limiting the complexity of mekso.

> I'd say "mi zifre ca li so pi'e cino bi'obo li pano pi'e cino .e li pa pi'e
> bi'obo li mu pi'e". jbofi'e doesn't like that; it wants "lo'o" (the terminator
> for "li") before "bi'o". One of the "bo" is necessary but the other isn't.
>

{ca} tags an event. A number is not an event. {ca lo se tcika be li...} should
be acceptable. Even so, I don't think {ca} implies that the freeness extends
along the whole interval, just that it intersects it.

I guess that jbofi'e complains because {bi'o} could be continuing the mekso.
Maybe its a CFG vs. PEG thing?

ta'o
> I assume that the first period is in the morning and the second is in the
> afternoon. To make that clear, I'd say "li pano pi'e cino pe le cerni ... li
> mu pi'e pe le vanci" or "li paci pi'e bi'o li paze pi'e". If you're an
> astronomer, you probably want to reverse the assumption. "pe le cerni"
> associates only with "li pano pi'e cino", so if the interval crosses noon, you
> can tag the first time with "pe le cerni" and the second with "pe le vanci" (or
> tag both with "pe le donri"). If you want to tag the whole time interval with
> "pe le cerni", I'm not sure. jbofi'e balks at "ke".
>

Why not use 24h time?
For 12h time a convention similar to "a.m/p.m" could be used, since, e.g.,
{pa pi mu vy} is a valid expression. Isn't there such kind of convention?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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