Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:47240) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7uHM-0000Rf-2T; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:40 -0700 Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3sf3347849yen.16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p6ZcjtVSVA1PHHneAGHVLRzlTJqgnDNeQobWgNeq+Vo=; b=Mq9aFfPFKWuHTlytC0Y8rEqfzdpqTjBMzFfm86SUmoToJunEknEErJPoGnJUgGPOXi fVMHbIIzNdey9soKXx8k15RxgQM3Bwj4F1OGd6m3iIPSFifjj2cJ1MCzCugKTZJE2MN0 Rb7g17J4hNUCie345vBd4mZU/w6ygBVEbzcbY= Received: by 10.224.59.138 with SMTP id l10mr643993qah.3.1331754861323; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.195.10 with SMTP id ea10ls3228187qab.9.gmail; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.136.21 with SMTP id p21mr131558qct.19.1331754859611; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by k24g2000yqe.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0016e6dedcee4d544404bb38f9d4@google.com> References: <0016e6dedcee4d544404bb38f9d4@google.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <7d483685-28e3-48d2-9252-525df74a0af3@k24g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How to say 'spork'? From: iesk To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: pa.fae@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pa.fae@gmx.de designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pa.fae@gmx.de; dkim=pass header.i=@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ianek: >{mucfro} or {frosmuci}. The former is shorter, but has an unpleasant >consonant cluster. You don't normally need things like joi, jev or bor >inside lujvos, because you can always define them as you like. You are right, I didn=E2=80=99t think of that. On the other hand, I feel a kind of psychological resistance against a lujvo which *looks* like it said 'spoon-type of fork' (or vice versa). The fun about sporks is that they are *both* (or at least that is my pretension). Hm=E2=80=A6 remod: >It sounds odd to have a fu'ivla for borrowing a word from Lojban itself! := ) Yeah. But there seem to be precedents, or at least one: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/sorpeka How accepted that is, I don'=C5=A7 know. It took me a little getting used to, but I think it is a nice idea, frankly. I recall someone arguing in favour of calling those (or all fu'ivla?) 'zi'evla' rather than 'fu'ivla'. >What about borrowing it as a cmevla? {.spork.} Possible, but a bit clumsy, isn't it? Also, why 'spork' (and not 'gefl' or whatever)? Cordially, iesk --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.