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(In this case, repeating do would be shorter, too. But with longer sumti, it's a different story) Am 15.03.2012 17:10, schrieb gleki: > Here is an example if a sentence in Pandunia > language. > mi peti ti tshau ta. = I ask you to say hello to him. > parsing: [I ask you greet he/she/it] > > So the second "sumti" /ti /in /mi peti ti /becomes the first "sumti" > of the next construction "ti tshau ta". > > I wonder whether it's possible to do so in Lojban. 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The vo'i is easable inferrable from context though. (In this case, repeating do would be shorter, too. But with longer sumti, it's a different story)

Am 15.03.2012 17:10, schrieb gleki:
Here is an example if a sentence in Pandunia language.
mi peti ti tshau ta. = I ask you to say hello to him. 
parsing: [I ask you greet he/she/it]

So the second "sumti" ti in mi peti ti becomes the first "sumti" of the next construction "ti tshau ta".

I wonder whether it's possible to do so in Lojban. May {be} or {.i ri} can do the trick

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