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On 15 March 2012 18:10, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

> So the second "sumti" *ti *in *mi peti ti *becomes the first "sumti" of
> the next construction "ti tshau ta".
> I wonder whether it's possible to do so in Lojban. May {be} or {.i ri} ca=
n
> do the trick
>

>Pandunia ... lacks other complex grammatical structures ...

while lojban mandates them. So, in that example, it's hard to ?factor? the
sumti out of the abstraction. In some specific cases you can get close
enough with:

1. common set of sumti with 2 =ABbridi tails=BB - with reversed order, comm=
on
comes first
2. NOI, with the hardcoded semantic

--=20
mi'e lex mu'o

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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 15 March 2012 18:10, gleki <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com">gleki.is.my.name@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>So the second &quot;sumti&quot; <i>ti </i>in <i>mi peti ti=A0</i>becom=
es the first &quot;sumti&quot; of the next construction &quot;ti tshau ta&q=
uot;.</div><div>I wonder whether it&#39;s possible to do so in Lojban. May =
{be} or {.i ri} can do the trick</div>
</blockquote><div><br>&gt;Pandunia ... lacks other complex grammatical stru=
ctures ...<br><br>while lojban  mandates them. So, in that example, it&#39;=
s hard to ?factor? the sumti out of the abstraction. In some specific cases=
 you can get close enough with:<br>
<br>1. common set of sumti with 2 =ABbridi tails=BB - with reversed order, =
common comes first<br>2. NOI, with the hardcoded semantic<br><br></div></di=
v>-- <br>mi&#39;e lex mu&#39;o<br><br>

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