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On 16 March 2012 19:07, gleki <gleki.is.my.name= @gmail.com> wrote:
"mi djica lo nu ri sipna" {mi se te se cpedu do lonuri rinsa}

For that we have =ABau mi sipna=BB and =ABe'o ko rins= a mi=BB.
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Why not create a new short cmavo for {lo su'u ri} ?

Considering the worst case =ABko'a cpedu lo nu fo'= a rinsa do kei fo'a=BB vs. =ABfo'a te cpedu {LOSUURI} rinsa do kei = ko'a=BB is only 1 cmavo shorter.
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