Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:36814) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S8cLh-0000y1-GJ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:58:06 -0700 Received: by lbbgi4 with SMTP id gi4sf2172294lbb.16 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1LH+zolrJz7BqsrH2S73gMXeXC7qoy4/7IIpY8XQIj0=; b=qaBA4jC4FfFZ5YxEYqZRDe8lC9LWlJWmYewxeV5E3axY47Pu9mVM8/oYXNTNWP5xP3 s3T4gtJqIAJxwlAs3QDoLJ6MjY8ALHcEO62z9tctZK84N5Ksqk+ShdVcnXNp3IPi3Vvl HbtDiaIx8SQs+24Tm4wtKGURXfbKt5iTZ0Tkc= Received: by 10.204.152.85 with SMTP id f21mr309034bkw.12.1331924249718; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.128.220 with SMTP id l28ls6098521bks.8.gmail; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.69 with SMTP id b5mr371562bka.4.1331924248702; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.13.69 with SMTP id b5mr371561bka.4.1331924248614; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si7248644bkz.0.2012.03.16.11.57.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53; Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so3585856bkw.12 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.144 with SMTP id o16mr1328649bkw.122.1331924248394; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.115.67 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:57:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7249705.98.1331921700313.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vblb5> References: <26361784.259.1331827845548.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjw14> <2343119.814.1331896532433.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkz21> <32227855.55.1331909777553.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc18> <14627135.208.1331917668355.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbas10> <21590616.1383.1331920334900.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynil17> <7249705.98.1331921700313.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vblb5> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:57:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Major flaw in Lojban ! (was:Pivotal sentences in Pandunia. How to express them in Lojban ?) From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lamelnyk@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb40ab17dca04bb60c75d X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.3 X-Spam_score_int: 3 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 16 March 2012 20:15, gleki wrote: > Don't you think that {mi djica lo nu sipna} is too ambiguous ? Don't you > think that it can include such cases as {mi djica lo nu ro sipna} {mi djica > lo nu do sipna} {mi djica lo nu mi sipna} {mi djica lo nu mi'o sipna} ? > [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (lamelnyk[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.3 PLING_QUERY Subject has exclamation mark and question mark 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL To: misformatted and free email service --0015175cb40ab17dca04bb60c75d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 16 March 2012 20:15, gleki wrote: > Don't you think that {mi djica lo nu sipna} is too ambiguous ? Don't you > think that it can include such cases as {mi djica lo nu ro sipna} {mi dji= ca > lo nu do sipna} {mi djica lo nu mi sipna} {mi djica lo nu mi'o sipna} ? > =ABmi djica lo nu MI sipna=BB is also too ambiguous. What I really want is = to sleep for 9 hours in a quiet and dark room, with a thin blanket and pillow, 22=B0C warm 20%(volume) oxygen 2% water air, on a soft bed, horizontal in a gravity field, slightly less then 10m/s=B2, less is better... But who cares? --=20 mi'e lex mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0015175cb40ab17dca04bb60c75d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 16 March 2012 20:15, gleki = <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Don't you think that=A0{mi djica lo nu sipna}=A0is too ambiguous ? Don&= #39;t you think that it can include such cases as=A0{mi djica lo nu ro sipn= a}=A0{mi djica lo nu do sipna}=A0{mi djica lo nu mi sipna}=A0{mi djica lo n= u mi'o sipna}=A0?

=ABmi djica lo nu MI sipna=BB is also too ambiguous.= What I really want is to sleep for 9 hours in a quiet and dark room, with= a thin blanket and pillow,=A0 22=B0C warm=A0 20%(volume) oxygen 2% water = air, on a soft bed, horizontal in a gravity field, slightly less then 10m/= s=B2, less is better...=A0 But who cares?

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