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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Major flaw in Lojban ! (was:Pivotal sentences
 in Pandunia. How to express them in Lojban ?)
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I thought that under xorlo {lo broda} doesn't imply the existence of
broda. (And likewise, {lo nu broda} doesn't imply the existence of an
event of broda).

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 16 Mar, 21:21, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.as...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 16 March 2012 17:03, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.as...@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>
> > By the way, I never understood why nu-abstractions are used in djica2.
> > There is no specific event you desire for. You just want an event with =
certain
> > properties to happen. Maybe the more abstract {du'u} would express that=
?
>
> On a more logical level, there is a problem when you try to express desir=
e
> for something impossible. That is
> =A01. Let broda be a predication that is impossible to hold, even in hypo=
thetical
> =A0 =A0 =A0worlds, such as a logical contradiction.
> =A02. Let ko'a be a subject with so little grasp of logic that ko'a can n=
ot
> =A0 =A0 =A0understand that broda is impossible, and naively wants broda.
> How would the speaker express that ko'a wants broda? He can't say
> {lo nu broda}, because there is no event of broda. There is no problem
> with the existence of the predication broda, on the other hand.
>
> mu'o
> mi'e .asiz.

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