Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:39481) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S8ozy-0005Ju-86; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:28:27 -0700 Received: by yhkk25 with SMTP id k25sf6800256yhk.16 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:28:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=owN3DMNcf0GJE707ZHmLUxgXjwShiHdt2pZeJNHjfzA=; b=nqH0nPEM7fqzUhMkBKffpl7uVmIXgEniz8svyjEF4RPB0PFtfrN/+xiT5MgwptVBjc wJia2SIuRJoB8cFosllvAzLHGYLuZicpCJj6EKv1mKODgSTlxSR053CVegsPBvbfH5BQ W2QAgTjKHPzkguSahgG1Y1oEy9ZPzMxaqOW9U= Received: by 10.52.28.33 with SMTP id y1mr482619vdg.1.1331972875499; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:27:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.99.78 with SMTP id t14ls174093vcn.0.gmail; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.19.52 with SMTP id b20mr481957vde.12.1331972873977; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by y10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 01:27:53 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.79 Safari/535.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <9b95fcc0-7e60-49b7-8b6a-7910d5eb231a@y10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Brivla version of {po'e} From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / When discussing the Lojban translation of the Ceqli comic, an issue came up. It seems that there's no brivla with similar meaning to {po'e}, which makes it special in GOI (well, {goi} doesn't have one too, but it's understandable). What I exactly mean is that: {ko'a pe ko'e} means {ko'a poi srana ko'e} (or maybe {ckini} is better? I don't know) and likewise {po} corresponds to {ponse} and {po'u}/{no'u} to {du} (which is not exactly a brivla, but whatever). I don't know any brivla meaning something like {x1 belongs to x2; inalienable possession} and I think there should exist such. mu'o mi'e ianek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.