Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:41650) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S974q-0002xs-25; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:47 -0700 Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3sf4270152lag.16 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HWvdze/D4jV4BhOtAAXDAhcEwWUk493qM3Yqk5b+ZWs=; b=DulIashkn/WD14fw9W439n3EP5Qs8+FGMcuJ7sqYTlStM5aRx8Dvobmb89kKJnn+eE NYXfsaD5Rp9hPfRATnkSnA5Fo5yQfZnEDTRo+88taou/XCscAbMz+yWGPLBQQU+xDdvy aCibF/AJBTQy4vV5v1qknxaxSn2XDp/ocTxrs= Received: by 10.204.152.85 with SMTP id f21mr527784bkw.12.1332042369415; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.50.142 with SMTP id z14ls6825426bkf.3.gmail; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.75 with SMTP id w11mr687409bks.0.1332042367731; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.75 with SMTP id w11mr687408bks.0.1332042367708; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f46.google.com (mail-bk0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cs9si12505305bkb.3.2012.03.17.20.46.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.46; Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id ik5so5453192bkc.33 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.130.76 with SMTP id r12mr2844906bks.80.1332042367532; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.99.72 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: [lojban-beginners] Reuse request From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747667c247e9004bb7c48b2 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --00151747667c247e9004bb7c48b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh, didn't realize we were suppose to read the panels 3 seconds apart. That's gonna take an awfully long time to read :-P (It goes back to the whole "modelling correct behavior" issue, I think. Would you like a strip teaching English that says, "Look! I see man with three balloon red"?) --gejyspa On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > No, there's no need. The fact of the text being in separate panels is > enough. In panels where a single person is saying multiple sentences, they > are separated with {.i}. > > If a person said {coi}, and then 3 seconds later said {mi do nelci}, would > you think they were talking to themselves about something you like? > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:54 AM, wrote: > >> Il giorno , Michael Turniansky ha scritto: >> >> > Should we insist on .i separators in the second and subsequent panels? >> >> I think we should. I always envisaged lojban comics dialags to be a >> continous stream of text for each character speaking. >> >> One might think that there's an implicit {.i} at the begininng of a new >> balloon but this would break some dialogue that uses multiple balloons for >> a single utterance (for example to show a different point of view in a new >> panel). >> >> I once experimented with using ":" as an alternative ortography for {.i} >> (just imagine the initial dot and the small dot over the "i" to be >> re-arranged in space) but it doesn't seem to have caught on. There's an >> example here: >> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=751 . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --00151747667c247e9004bb7c48b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0 Oh, didn't realize we were suppose to read the pan= els 3 seconds apart. =A0That's gonna take an awfully long time to read = :-P

=A0 =A0(It goes back to the whole "modelling co= rrect behavior" issue, I think. =A0Would you like a strip teaching Eng= lish that says, "Look! I see man with three balloon red"?)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM= , Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
No, there's no need. The fact of the tex= t being in separate panels is enough. In panels where a single person is sa= ying multiple sentences, they are separated with {.i}.

If a person said {coi}, and then 3 seconds later said {mi do nelci}, wo= uld you think they were talking to themselves about something you like?


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:54 AM, <rdenta= to@gmail.com> wrote:
Il giorno , Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> = =A0 Should we insist on .i separators in the second and subsequent panels?<= br>
I think we should. I always envisaged lojban comics dialags to be= a continous stream of text for each character speaking.

One might t= hink that there's an implicit {.i} at the begininng of a new balloon bu= t this would break some dialogue that uses multiple balloons for a single u= tterance (for example to show a different point of view in a new panel).
I once experimented with using ":" as an alternative ortograp= hy for {.i} (just imagine the initial dot and the small dot over the "= i" to be re-arranged in space) but it doesn't seem to have caught = on. There's an example here: http://www.loj= ban.org/tiki/tiki-download_wiki_attachment.php?attId=3D751 .

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