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[193.17.41.200]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s9si6566363eei.3.2012.03.17.14.35.52; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of j-sz@o2.pl designates 193.17.41.200 as permitted sender) client-ip=193.17.41.200; Received: from moh2-ve2.go2.pl (unknown [10.0.0.200]) by moh2-ve2.go2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0BAB02ECC for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:35:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from unknown (unknown [10.0.0.142]) by moh2-ve2.go2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:35:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-vx0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176] by poczta.o2.pl with ESMTP id XdxCXS; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:35:51 +0100 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17so5430203vcb.7 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.141.201 with SMTP id n9mr2363150vcu.66.1332020150291; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.33.165 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F64F98D.1050201@plasmatix.com> References: <9b95fcc0-7e60-49b7-8b6a-7910d5eb231a@y10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> <4F64F98D.1050201@plasmatix.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:35:50 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Brivla version of {po'e} From: Janek To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-O2-Trust: 2, 68 X-O2-SPF: neutral X-Original-Sender: j-sz@o2.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of j-sz@o2.pl designates 193.17.41.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=j-sz@o2.pl Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / I wouldn't call a 5-syllable brivla "short" zo'o But I think that {jizra'a} would be enough. mu'o mi'e ianek On 17 March 2012 21:52, selpa'i wrote: > po'e = jinzi ke se steci srana > > If you want to have a short brivla, you can turn it into {jizytecra'a} > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > Am 17.03.2012 09:27, schrieb ianek: > >> When discussing the Lojban translation of the Ceqli comic, an issue >> came up. >> It seems that there's no brivla with similar meaning to {po'e}, which >> makes it special in GOI (well, {goi} doesn't have one too, but it's >> understandable). >> What I exactly mean is that: {ko'a pe ko'e} means {ko'a poi srana >> ko'e} (or maybe {ckini} is better? I don't know) and likewise {po} >> corresponds to {ponse} and {po'u}/{no'u} to {du} (which is not exactly >> a brivla, but whatever). >> I don't know any brivla meaning something like {x1 belongs to x2; >> inalienable possession} and I think there should exist such. >> >> mu'o mi'e ianek >> > > > -- > .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna > .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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