Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:57912) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SAFS2-0007c1-Qk; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:55:19 -0700 Received: by ggmi2 with SMTP id i2sf938539ggm.16 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:55:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PKlqBk0kihl3wLzUeKmQQVl40+qOTZQKABSNS5/pTfk=; b=X3ct9j/FNdzD7P/7819KmWhugwY6IX38S7oyAQBkLRCIJktlac6XRdDP/O8VDpZRva rQrViPhwpSXmXIkwHz4/R1qABMI3fqAIn9G1YvRdWqIXJ1RmPgBLd/dryVEutyoxEXFl 5J2ZHyZRbccXQakq0uO0GVjkW70Tmu5gU8hpA= Received: by 10.52.36.136 with SMTP id q8mr412122vdj.17.1332312891562; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:54:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.73.134 with SMTP id l6ls409627vdv.7.gmail; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.22.3 with SMTP id z3mr432385vde.2.1332312890460; Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <2371108.1969.1332312889960.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjl17> In-Reply-To: <24143939.1398.1332138901295.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynnk21> References: <24143939.1398.1332138901295.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynnk21> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1968_4945362.1332312889958" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1968_4945362.1332312889958 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My point was to teach in the form of {lo broda cu brode lo brodi lo brodo be lo brodu} In this case student can learn only "lo". Otherwise they will have to learn {lo broda ku brode lo brodi ku lo brodo be lo brodu [ku ku]} which is a bit more bulky and harder to understand. {lo} without looks like "a" or "the" in English. {lo ... ku} looks like a programming language which is not easy for everyone. On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:35:01 AM UTC+4, gleki wrote: > > Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we rearrange > words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei} and {cu} ? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/jr0LeEnGOJUJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_1968_4945362.1332312889958 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My point was to teach in the form of
{lo broda cu brode lo brodi lo bro= do be lo brodu}
In this case student can learn only "lo".
Otherwise they will have to learn
{lo broda ku brode lo brodi = ku lo brodo be lo brodu [ku ku]}
which is a bit more bulky a= nd harder to understand.

{lo} without looks like "= a" or "the" in English.
{lo ... ku} looks like a programming lang= uage which is not easy for everyone.

On Monday, Ma= rch 19, 2012 10:35:01 AM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can = we rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei} and {cu}= ?

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