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You may think it's easier without ku, but it will cause problems for the 
students later on. I strongly recommend teaching full terminators from 
the beginning on. Teach how to elide them a bit later. Trust the people 
here who tell you to teach terminators. We have a lot of experience 
teaching beginners and this method has proven effective again and again.

Am 21.03.2012 07:54, schrieb gleki:
> My point was to teach in the form of
> {lo broda cu brode lo brodi lo brodo be lo brodu}
> In this case student can learn only "lo".
> Otherwise they will have to learn
> {lo broda ku brode lo brodi ku lo brodo be lo brodu [ku ku]}
> which is a bit more bulky and harder to understand.
>
> {lo} without looks like "a" or "the" in English.
> {lo ... ku} looks like a programming language which is not easy for 
> everyone.
>
> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:35:01 AM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
>
>     Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we
>     rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei}
>     and {cu} ?
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    You may think it's easier without ku, but it will cause problems for
    the students later on. I strongly recommend teaching full
    terminators from the beginning on. Teach how to elide them a bit
    later. Trust the people here who tell you to teach terminators. We
    have a lot of experience teaching beginners and this method has
    proven effective again and again.<br>
    <br>
    Am 21.03.2012 07:54, schrieb gleki:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:2371108.1969.1332312889960.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjl17"
      type="cite">My point was to teach in the form of
      <div>{lo broda cu brode lo brodi lo brodo be lo brodu}</div>
      <div>In this case student can learn only "lo".</div>
      <div>Otherwise they will have to learn</div>
      <div>{lo broda ku brode lo brodi ku lo brodo be lo brodu&nbsp;[ku ku]}</div>
      <div>which is a bit more bulky and harder to understand.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>{lo} without looks like "a" or "the" in English.</div>
      <div>{lo ... ku} looks like a programming language which is not
        easy for everyone.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:35:01 AM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left:
          0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Is it
          possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we
          rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like
          {kei} and {cu} ?<br>
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