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I wonder how Asian languages work then

On Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:18:28 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>
> An older/younger sibling is older/younger relative to the person whose=20
> sibling they are. E.g., My younger brother is younger than *I* am.=20
> I've had a problem all my life with describing my brother who is a year=
=20
> younger than I am. I've called him my older brother, because he's the old=
er=20
> of my two brothers, but he's still younger than I am. OTOH, calling him m=
y=20
> older brother implies that he is older than I am. (Now I just don't talk=
=20
> about him.)=20
> So the seltau {citmau} may not be the best word to use for the meaning yo=
u=20
> want.=20
> stevo
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:49 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
>> So {citmau mensi} ?
>> Several languages in Tatoeba look like they have separate words for olde=
r=20
>> and younger sister.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:17:29 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:
>>>
>>> Why do you need lujvo for such words? I suggest trying it with tanru=20
>>> first, then if the need (or desire) is great enough, create a lujvo.=20
>>>
>>> stevo
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 3:53 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>wrot=
e:
>>>
>>>> In some languages there are specific words for younger sister, older=
=20
>>>> sister.
>>>> This is the problem I faced in Tatoeba when translating some sentences=
.
>>>>
>>>> I believe we need lujvo for such words.
>>>> {citmau} or {citno} {mensi} are ambiguous.
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I wonder how Asian languages work then<br><br>On Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:1=
8:28 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">An =
older/younger sibling is older/younger relative to the person whose sibling=
 they are. E.g., My younger brother is younger than *I* am.&nbsp;<div>I've =
had a problem all my life with describing my brother who is a year younger =
than I am. I've called him my older brother, because he's the older of my t=
wo brothers, but he's still younger than I am. OTOH, calling him my older b=
rother implies that he is older than I am. (Now I just don't talk about him=
.)&nbsp;</div>

<div>So the seltau {citmau} may not be the best word to use for the meaning=
 you want.&nbsp;</div><div>stevo</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 9:49 AM, gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So {citmau mensi} ?<div>Several languages in=
 Tatoeba look like they have separate words for older and younger sister.<d=
iv>

<div><br><br>On Sunday, March 25, 2012 5:17:29 PM UTC+4, stevo wrote:<block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Why do you need lujvo for such words? I s=
uggest trying it with tanru first, then if the need (or desire) is great en=
ough, create a lujvo.&nbsp;<div>

<br></div><div>stevo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 25, 2012=
 at 3:53 AM, gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>



<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">In some languages there are specific words f=
or younger sister, older sister.<div>This is the problem I faced in Tatoeba=
 when translating some sentences.</div>



<div><br></div><div>I believe we need lujvo for such words.</div><div>{citm=
au} or {citno} {mensi} are ambiguous.</div><span><font color=3D"#888888">

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