Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:53774) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SBqht-00089x-5t; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:54:18 -0700 Received: by ggmi2 with SMTP id i2sf5951348ggm.16 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:54:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xqF+zaVVqE6q3k5MMLGQwc45ZU2VTmWccV3flrHDumk=; b=CJwRfY8t2CY+7c6r6WvwC7hDL0EU3LpypB2R3oo7rhiKfXdRZeHhG7EFWDRolC/HhK LqvKpEf8+ry/H1W5jjUCeYwOdtCHvY02oyiXKJ5YHCcQwL/QPqaO5IWNHfL04n5V6IuA 4YwImiYI3gscqzDMa5emmCWbByhnGLW5UoU0I= Received: by 10.50.216.133 with SMTP id oq5mr1163375igc.4.1332694425693; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.236.101 with SMTP id ut5ls4414126igc.4.canary; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.158.4 with SMTP id f4mr10002301icx.4.1332694425042; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.158.4 with SMTP id f4mr10002300icx.4.1332694425032; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eo1si2815810igc.0.2012.03.25.09.53.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.174; Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so4202972obb.19 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.41.6 with SMTP id b6mr23799625obl.10.1332694424704; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.153.68 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:53:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <18318205.178.1332691578797.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> References: <18318205.178.1332691578797.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> From: ".arpis." Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:53:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] If you wanna change the world change yourself. How to say that in lojban ? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / {.i va'o da'i lo nu do tikygau lo munje kei ku ko ko tikygau} Counterfactual (as opposed to logical) "if" can be slightly controversial in lojban, but I think that {va'o da'i} is pretty well accepted and understood. On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:06 PM, gleki wrote: > If you wanna change the world change yourself. How to say that in lojban ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/tiTepq6EITwJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.