Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:52597) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SBr2c-0008Hq-O4; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:46 -0700 Received: by fabs1 with SMTP id s1sf3194417fab.16 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=P+XRQqHkDSjn3eo6CJGJdnIsh1P+lVFE8aO23dGTbBw=; b=nOVkrGFkmqHpzSMTYIj4dZ2397EvByllFnf0ITnSJiJk8C6GWPU1cxM0QDIm27WZR3 MYuLehaOEm0ZBBtp9JpoIGA5+bH9YMHQr+mO8lPoZtvB3Ao1AL+oDrZ+8YapjbWJvaLg el6S9PY/iYJnVGs1xX+rBjOd1i5piwedhfBIk= Received: by 10.204.152.16 with SMTP id e16mr1517954bkw.31.1332695710453; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.2 with SMTP id q2ls1920480bks.9.gmail; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.133.213 with SMTP id g21mr1895906bkt.3.1332695709719; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.133.213 with SMTP id g21mr1895903bkt.3.1332695709706; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o5si18227257bkz.0.2012.03.25.10.15.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.179; Received: by lbbgn12 with SMTP id gn12so3299448lbb.10 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.125.41 with SMTP id mn9mr14199975lab.30.1332695709310; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.5.74 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <18318205.178.1332691578797.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:15:09 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] If you wanna change the world change yourself. How to say that in lojban ? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:53 PM, .arpis. wrote: > {.i va'o da'i lo nu do tikygau lo munje kei ku ko ko tikygau} I suggest "cnegau" or "galfi" rather than "tikygau". x1 of stika is something that causes change, not something that changes, stikygau means "x1 makes x2 change x3 in amount x4". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.