Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:54906) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SJNrJ-0002Uj-4s; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:13 -0700 Received: by wgbdt10 with SMTP id dt10sf2858134wgb.16 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VWEb8UKixSyXENjfcF1dJeMb5XSHnoy/2raq3IPyhfw=; b=EsnFK12wpw/oriIf8uuDHlCpFrUaJQddL+ZwuCT3uwFL4U4PQRQylfuwVw+BWhQqQq ECbrQAtHY9JYrNK5Hx71+mFRwhYiu81Qb93g8/gK7EJ0k988+pcwgzGDbhUK4FyQJZRn qxk5kZUkZZFJ7TxiC2MFQwy/DO99Xkr0GZ480= Received: by 10.204.129.83 with SMTP id n19mr470396bks.20.1334490157814; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.141.19 with SMTP id k19ls4529858bku.7.gmail; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr738958bku.8.1334490156276; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr738957bku.8.1334490156245; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f53.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cs9si4731837bkb.3.2012.04.15.04.42.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.53; Received: by lahc1 with SMTP id c1so3338972lah.12 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.231 with SMTP id s7mr3470854lbz.11.1334490155538; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.44.129 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:42:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <17782360.2297.1334489308398.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> References: <17782360.2297.1334489308398.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:42:35 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] problem with cmavo {zei}. Can it be mixed with {zei} rafsi? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401fadbad585a04bdb633e5 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0401fadbad585a04bdb633e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "zeipagbu" can't be a lujvo. It will /always/ break into "zei pagbu", because a lujvo must have a consonant cluster within the first 5 letters. "zeipagbu" doesn't have a cluster until the 6th letter. In order to make a lujvo of "zekri pagbu", you have to use the /other/ rafsi of xekri, "zer". On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM, gleki wrote: > Look at this example from jbovlaste. > > simfoni zei pagbu - p1 is a movement of symphony number k3 in key k4 > composed by k5. > > I wonder whether in spoken pauseless speech > it can be mixed with > simfoni zeipagbu - which can be intrepreted as "symphonical crime-part". > > Do you have any explanation or solution? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/g1BDx3HzaAwJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.= name@gmail.com> wrote:
Look at this example from jbovlaste.

simfoni zei pagbu -= =A0p1 is a movement of symphony number k3 in key k4 composed by k5.

I wonder whether in spoken pauseless speech
it can be mixed with=A0
simfoni zeipagbu=A0 - which can be intrep= reted as "symphonical crime-part".

D= o you have any explanation or solution?

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