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Actually, you can use {zei}, but in that case you'd have to add "r" after 
that, forming zeirpagbu, which obviously has no advantage over zerpagbu (or 
zerpau).

mu'o mi'e ianek

On Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:43:04 PM UTC+2, aionys wrote:
>
> *zekri
>
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>
>> "zeipagbu" can't be a lujvo. It will /always/ break into "zei pagbu", 
>> because a lujvo must have a consonant cluster within the first 5 letters. 
>> "zeipagbu" doesn't have a cluster until the 6th letter. In order to make a 
>> lujvo of "zekri pagbu", you have to use the /other/ rafsi of xekri, "zer".
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM, gleki wrote:
>>
>>> Look at this example from jbovlaste.
>>>
>>> simfoni zei pagbu - p1 is a movement of symphony number k3 in key k4 
>>> composed by k5.
>>>
>>> I wonder whether in spoken pauseless speech
>>> it can be mixed with 
>>> simfoni zeipagbu  - which can be intrepreted as "symphonical crime-part".
>>>
>>> Do you have any explanation or solution?
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>>
>>
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Actually, you can use {zei}, but in that case you'd have to add "r" after t=
hat, forming zeirpagbu, which obviously has no advantage over zerpagbu (or =
zerpau).<div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e ianek<br><br>On Sunday, April 15, 201=
2 1:43:04 PM UTC+2, aionys wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex=
;">*zekri<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:42 AM=
, Jonathan Jones&nbsp;wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
"zeipagbu" can't be a lujvo. It will /always/ break into "zei pagbu", becau=
se a lujvo must have a consonant cluster within the first 5 letters. "zeipa=
gbu" doesn't have a cluster until the 6th letter. In order to make a lujvo =
of "zekri pagbu", you have to use the /other/ rafsi of xekri, "zer".<div>
<div></div><div><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM, gleki wrote=
:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Look at this example from jbovlaste.<div><br></div><div>simfoni zei pagbu -=
&nbsp;p1 is a movement of symphony number k3 in key k4 composed by k5.<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>I wonder whether in spoken pauseless speech</div><=
div>

it can be mixed with&nbsp;</div><div>simfoni zeipagbu&nbsp; - which can be =
intrepreted as "symphonical crime-part".<br></div><div><br></div><div>Do yo=
u have any explanation or solution?</div>

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