Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:64384) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SOFH6-0005mb-KB; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:59 -0700 Received: by vbbfd1 with SMTP id fd1sf2266462vbb.16 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=n/NHkzsuMH0EvDAx4FwfyWpO/+Rncke6hNPiFex1mq0=; b=aIPEiC8iuhPSjoBEIenhk1pSLd2ooojyBYtVN+CsA4Al8BY0SX6ngh6htxrfYf69Cc z43VM5zNpYInPmbo59l2fd3WIzf/wqGyCaIRqqdr/5N2WuCJsAXFHWw1GNgaU8AQC7EZ CIHievCcGK3XPP4VtFv92Am2M3QT+tosDDJiA= Received: by 10.50.88.169 with SMTP id bh9mr619288igb.1.1335648825494; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:45 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.27.25 with SMTP id g25ls2612616ibc.1.gmail; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.217.193 with SMTP id pa1mr6601150igc.1.1335648824844; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.217.193 with SMTP id pa1mr6601149igc.1.1335648824832; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net. [207.69.200.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id hq2si3584828igc.3.2012.04.28.14.33.44; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 207.69.200.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rslau@mindspring.com) client-ip=207.69.200.48; Received: from user-11217ni.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.158.242] helo=[192.168.0.191]) by pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1SOFGy-0002L6-00 for lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:33:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] ti From: Robert Slaughter To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:33:41 -0400 Message-ID: <1335648821.26906.11.camel@thomas> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-Original-Sender: rslau@mindspring.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 207.69.200.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of rslau@mindspring.com) smtp.mail=rslau@mindspring.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 22:10 +0100, tijlan wrote: > What is the pointability of, say, "2012 U.S. presidential election"? > Can a Californian refer to it by "ti"? Would that make as much sense > as a Mexican's "ta" or a Kazakh's "tu"? > > mu'o I've always taken 'ti' to mean in its event-form things like "the voting here today". And for me 'ta' and 'tu' are always spacial displacement, never temporal. -- Bob Slaughter, rslauGUESS@WHATmindspring.com http://www.facebook.com/robert.s.slaughter "The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." -- Plato "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." -- Albert Einstein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.