Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:57616) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SOozj-0008SX-Uc; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:26 -0700 Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32sf3464988qad.16 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1KMwYSt2maPOBJkwjDngB4W87RT8cdgkJJ6GNYkYhA4=; b=JrXSZqbfW8XfQz/39oMLNUa4UC8MNrsHnhyMhlFMJBL3msIKKHr2CydF/W/k0RTfMx 5m/qKVD+W6zlOzwa8u3sf2rhjr+EtELv/E15mt1NiondpmRfdAO8lXJBadk5GcEBTAHP CDzhhqwmDD9h5gEtzed2TBY2zPngxcEdTnxpk= Received: by 10.236.80.9 with SMTP id j9mr87276yhe.19.1335786131877; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.114.50 with SMTP id b38ls4947720yhh.1.gmail; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.165.99 with SMTP id d63mr28766120yhl.7.1335786130401; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.165.99 with SMTP id d63mr28766119yhl.7.1335786130393; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e48si11037393yhn.7.2012.04.30.04.42.09; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A262217DE for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:42:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lujvo as prefix for fu'vla? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:42:05 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201204300742.05681.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Monday, April 30, 2012 03:16:25 jongausib wrote: > I just wonder if it's possible to have lujvo as prefix for fu'ivla. > > For example: I guess "nanba" include all kind of things you can make > by mixing grain (flour) and liquid, like bread, pastry, cake, cookie, > etc. > > If I would like to specify that the loanword "semla" has something to > do with a cake/pastry, not a brown bread, could you construct the > fu'ivla "titnanbrsemla"? No. A type-3 fu'ivla has only one rafsi classifier. I don't know what the counterexample is, since not I figured it out, but if you try to use two rafsi prefixes in a type-3 fu'ivla, you can run into trouble. "titnanbrsemla" is a type-4 fu'ivla. Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.