Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:38353) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSGzu-0008RU-B6; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:51 -0700 Received: by eaad14 with SMTP id d14sf573920eaa.16 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9fwZBoyj2gb3a1b/aceCPZoVksIV/w5IM271yVGWRWM=; b=cMdk/Ko3zgrQk1COAzTPe8R6s9rHc4ZvzHn92T+KsPwl+fGXqZCjqzPI7rr4fiK2s8 fW3iV94Fh/yk0G2CxTWy18HSFmqffwMxR6fM/QFDUN5U54pTVicdQQ88r/MlUQ9UEEOp I9cG3d84LLVW3V4vJNKeKi//kSHe7Z2Ud50KE= Received: by 10.205.118.133 with SMTP id fq5mr127919bkc.1.1336608758509; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls4501942bks.1.gmail; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr263877bku.8.1336608757911; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr263876bku.8.1336608757884; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f51.google.com (mail-bk0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hy18si4920725bkc.2.2012.05.09.17.12.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.51; Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id jg15so809345bkc.10 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.133.19 with SMTP id hw19mr871303bkc.0.1336608757748; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.125.5 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2012 17:12:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13954430.1727.1336608605204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv35> References: <22560097.502.1336568142532.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndm3> <13954430.1727.1336608605204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv35> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:12:37 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: 'tesete' and cmavo cluster rules From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c11a43592bb04bfa37ac5 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015174c11a43592bb04bfa37ac5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is, and it always does require a pause in front of it. Miles is wrong= . --gejyspa On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM, =C1lvaro Vallejo wrot= e: > .uesai > > > - "The initial period can never be omitted before vowels (if they are * > phonetically* vowels. {ui} =3D [wi], so no dot is necessary). " > - "ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is needed." > > Well... I am really shocked! How is it that "u" is not a vowel? It IS a > vowel or I should start learning again Lojban from zero: it's name is > indeed ybu, isn't it? > (Chapter 1 of Lojban for beginners, Chapter 2 of CLL)... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/AINBgk5ryt8J. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --0015174c11a43592bb04bfa37ac5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0 It is, and it always does require a pause in front of = it. =A0Miles is wrong.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM, =C1lvaro Vallejo <avallejor@gmail.com> wrote:
.uesai


- "The = initial period can never be omitted before vowels (if they are phonetica= lly vowels. {ui} =3D [wi], so no dot is necessary). "
- "ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is = needed."

Well... I am really shocked! How is it that &quo= t;u" is not a vowel? It IS a vowel or I should start learning again Lo= jban from zero: it's name is indeed ybu, isn't it?
(Chapter 1 of Lojban for beginners, Chapter 2 of CLL)...
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