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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM, =C1lvaro Vallejo <avallejor@gmail.com> wrot=
e:

> .uesai
>
>
> - "The initial period can never be omitted before vowels (if they are *
> phonetically* vowels. {ui} =3D [wi], so no dot is necessary). "
> - "ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is needed."
>
> Well... I am really shocked! How is it that "u" is not a vowel? It IS a
> vowel or I should start learning again Lojban from zero: it's name is
> indeed ybu, isn't it?
>

No, {ybu} is the name of the letter "y". The name of the letter "u" is
"ubu". And similarly for the other vowels. The consonants are just named by
the consonant itself plus "y": by, cy, dy, ...

stevo


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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM, =C1lvaro=
 Vallejo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:avallejor@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">avallejor@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">

.uesai<div class=3D"im"><br><br>- &quot;The initial period can never be omi=
tted before vowels (if they are <i>phonetically</i>
    vowels. {ui} =3D [wi], so no dot is necessary). &quot;<br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"im">- &quot;ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is =
needed.&quot;<br><br></div>Well... I am really shocked! How is it that &quo=
t;u&quot; is not a vowel? It IS a vowel or I should start learning again Lo=
jban from zero: it&#39;s name is indeed ybu, isn&#39;t it?<br>

</blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, {ybu} is the name of the letter &quot;=
y&quot;. The name of the letter &quot;u&quot; is &quot;ubu&quot;. And simil=
arly for the other vowels. The consonants are just named by the consonant i=
tself plus &quot;y&quot;: by, cy, dy, ...</div>

<div><br></div><div>stevo</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>(Chapter 1 of Lojban for beginners, Chapter 2 of CLL)...<div class=3D"im">=
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