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On the other hand, nobody can stop you from using the form of Lojban you
want. It may not be understood readily if you do.
You take the risk, you accept the consequences.
(Sadly, the beginners list is not the place for this sort of comment, but
there it is.)

stevo

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:25 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So let's change it! I mean, we should gather complaints like that and
>> make new versions of Lojban from time to time (once a couple of years?).
>>
>> If there are annoying things in Lojban and we know how to fix them, then
>> we should stop complaining and do something! It's our language, there's
>> nobody to stop us!
>>
>> I have similar thoughts about jbovlaste, but I'll better start another
>> thread for that.
>>
>> mu'o mi'e ianek
>>
>
> Well, as far as gismu are concerned, we're not currently allowed to make
> any changes. By the statutes of our community, the "baseline" of the
> language is not allowed to change until the entirety has been documented.
> This only means gismu and cmavo, btw. We're allowed to make and edit as
> many lujvo, fu'ivla, and cmevla as we want.
>
> In other words, when the goal as stated on this page<http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Community+Work>has been met, then we can start actually making improvements to the base
> language, such as regulating the place structures to remove exceptions.
> Until then, however, when it comes to the baseline, all we can do is talk,
> moan, discuss, and complain.
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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On the other hand, nobody can stop you from using the form of Lojban you wa=
nt. It may not be understood readily if you do.=A0<div>You take the risk, y=
ou accept the consequences.=A0</div><div>(Sadly, the beginners list is not =
the place for this sort of comment, but there it is.)</div>

<div><br></div><div>stevo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 9, =
2012 at 10:29 AM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ey=
eonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:25 AM=
, ianek <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:janek37@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">janek37@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">


<div></div><div>So let&#39;s change it! I mean, we should gather complaints=
 like that and make new versions of Lojban from time to time (once a couple=
 of years?).</div><div><br></div><div>If there are annoying things in Lojba=
n and we know how to fix them, then we should stop complaining and do somet=
hing! It&#39;s our language, there&#39;s nobody to stop us!</div>


<div><br></div><div>I have similar thoughts about jbovlaste, but I&#39;ll b=
etter start another thread for that.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#=
39;e ianek</div></blockquote></div><div><br>Well, as far as gismu are conce=
rned, we&#39;re not currently allowed to make any changes. By the statutes =
of our community, the &quot;baseline&quot; of the language is not allowed t=
o change until the entirety has been documented. This only means gismu and =
cmavo, btw. We&#39;re allowed to make and edit as many lujvo, fu&#39;ivla, =
and cmevla as we want.<br>


<br>In other words, when the goal as stated on=A0<a href=3D"http://www.lojb=
an.org/tiki/BPFK+Community+Work" target=3D"_blank">this page</a> has been m=
et, then we can start actually making improvements to the base language, su=
ch as regulating the place structures to remove exceptions. Until then, how=
ever, when it comes to the baseline, all we can do is talk, moan, discuss, =
and complain.<br>


</div></div><div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<=
br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do =
zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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