Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:46263) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSNgv-0003Ip-Oe; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:42 -0700 Received: by wibhq12 with SMTP id hq12sf216921wib.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YpMbTQROaLCtycmKOBvtAY+REFoEtlRGcaBCZApPEZI=; b=R1fMj05N5M0fBYmnWEIrCUs3083Yfa6yP+gEpdXANOa6GzcTWUWKqnTNRWLPu34af/ s3Wr3a8X9QJwTC2O/X1xxk/zICEiYeXTLONp24Gs3YsICbI5AD0oJ0Xw0gRZe56Ybpmt 6B0RiNhnfhQxy9sKmIo1o6ZK5gGBl5x/3DSP8= Received: by 10.204.152.18 with SMTP id e18mr136241bkw.16.1336634488423; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.129.208 with SMTP id p16ls4635090bks.7.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr388333bkw.0.1336634486983; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr388332bkw.0.1336634486966; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si6072678bkc.3.2012.05.10.00.21.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.175; Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so1190968lbo.34 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.234 with SMTP id tv10mr3003772lab.41.1336634486609; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 00:21:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 01:21:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Reuse request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234509c4d65804bfa97753 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f234509c4d65804bfa97753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, in the course of making the corrections, I came across this little snag: The man Zam is the brother of the husband of the daughter of the woman Jin, which makes him Jin's son-in-law. In the original translation, I have {jy. be'aspe la.zam.}, which is obviously wrong. So, let's see. {jy. mamta lo speni be lo bruna be la.zam.} is {jy. be'aspemamta la.zam.}? Is there some way to make that shorter? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --e89a8f234509c4d65804bfa97753 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, in the course of making the corrections, I came across this little snag= :

The man Zam is the brother of the husband of the daughter of the w= oman Jin, which makes him Jin's son-in-law.

In the original tran= slation, I have {jy. be'aspe la.zam.}, which is obviously wrong.

So, let's see. {jy. mamta lo speni be lo bruna be la.zam.} is {jy. = be'aspemamta la.zam.}? Is there some way to make that shorter?

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be = denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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