On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jonathan Jon= es <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May = 9, 2012 at 11:45 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrot= e:

On the other hand, nobody can stop you from using the form of Lojban you wa= nt. It may not be understood readily if you do.=A0
You take the risk, y= ou accept the consequences.=A0
(Sadly, the beginners list is not = the place for this sort of comment, but there it is.)

stevo

I'm sorr= y, but I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Lojban is a proscr= ibed language, so there's /only/ one form. If you're not using that= form, you're not using Lojban.
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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jonath= an Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:25 AM, ianek <jan= ek37@gmail.com> wrote:

So let's change it! I mean, we should gather complaints= like that and make new versions of Lojban from time to time (once a couple= of years?).

If there are annoying things in Lojba= n and we know how to fix them, then we should stop complaining and do somet= hing! It's our language, there's nobody to stop us!

I have similar thoughts about jbovlaste, but I'll b= etter start another thread for that.

mu'o mi&#= 39;e ianek

Well, as far as gismu are conce= rned, we're not currently allowed to make any changes. By the statutes = of our community, the "baseline" of the language is not allowed t= o change until the entirety has been documented. This only means gismu and = cmavo, btw. We're allowed to make and edit as many lujvo, fu'ivla, = and cmevla as we want.

In other words, when the goal as stated on=A0this page has been m= et, then we can start actually making improvements to the base language, su= ch as regulating the place structures to remove exceptions. Until then, how= ever, when it comes to the baseline, all we can do is talk, moan, discuss, = and complain.

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