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From: lojban-beginners@go= oglegroups.com=20 [mailto:lojban-begin= ners@googlegroups.com]On=20 Behalf Of Miles Forster
Sent: 10 May 2012=20 11:04
To: lojban-beginners@go= oglegroups.com
Subject:=20 Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: 'tesete' and cmavo cluster=20 rules

.y bu is not "u". .u bu is. And the u in ui= is=20 not pronounced [u] but [w] which *is* a consonant. Some here seem to = lack=20 reading comprehension. It's annoying to argue with people who won't l= isten=20 to what the other person is saying.
Whether or not something is a = vowel=20 depends on the way it's pronounced, not the way it's=20 written.

mu'o

Am 10.05.2012 02:12, schrieb Michael=20 Turniansky:=20
It is, and it always does require a pause in = front=20 of it. Miles is wrong.=20
--gejyspa

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM, =C1lvaro V= allejo=20 <avallejor@gmail.com>=20 wrote:

.uesai=20

- "The initial period can never be omitte= d=20 before vowels (if they are phonetically vowels. {ui} =3D [= wi], so=20 no dot is necessary). "

- "ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no de= npa bu=20 is needed."

Well... I am really shocked! How is it t= hat=20 "u" is not a vowel? It IS a vowel or I should start learning agai= n=20 Lojban from zero: it's name is indeed ybu, isn't it?
(Chapter = 1 of=20 Lojban for beginners, Chapter 2 of CLL)...=20

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