Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:65065) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSfSJ-0005OG-EE; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:49 -0700 Received: by eekb57 with SMTP id b57sf257335eek.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hiiHEE+wP1wL5hzNYt1ug4x87s+0w7WzQ/MQRfl+pto=; b=t1q9TXn8x+kc8NqLU6VOTtxvQEAmLYILImHRZ5Fz5uwX1BTHpER0AF2TNpozRqLYnT 7I1R6Yjgzu3/WEaSTgsSA1LBgaDYpqJmIXxElrmtgSUH+I5Zj1TtvAZeEyRQImll8cmI RMlPtV3tWjb/suCzlNSiJqSyOTX23At01U+v8= Received: by 10.205.123.140 with SMTP id gk12mr329705bkc.4.1336702774782; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls5524321bks.1.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr879414bkt.4.1336702774253; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr879413bkt.4.1336702774230; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k15si9187886bks.0.2012.05.10.19.19.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.50; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f50.google.com with SMTP id m15so1551531lah.9 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.132.233 with SMTP id ox9mr3753707lab.4.1336702774040; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> <3f2be27f-7c0e-459f-9b8a-f0a3b401cfb1@l15g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:19:33 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042c6c4d0458bb04bfb95e81 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d042c6c4d0458bb04bfb95e81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> 54. cy: xu do'o se panzi >> >> by: go'i .i mi'a se panzi lo cimei noi me pa nanla .e re nixli >> >> >> >> I think that expands as "noi me pa nanla gi'e me re nixli". >> > >> > I looked at that one, and in both camxes and jboski it parses as "me (= pa >> > nanla .e re nixli)". >> >> Of course. And "broda ko'a .e ko'e" also parses as "broda (ko'a .e >> ko'e)". I'm talking about what the ".e" short form expands to. It >> always expands to a bridi connective. >> > > I don't understand what you mean by this expansion thing, especially sinc= e > you seem to be contradicting yourself, as you previously said that ".e" > expands to ".ije". > > Is there perhaps some site I can be directed to that explains this? > > >> > changing it to "... me pa nanla gi'e re nixli" (or "... je...") >> results in >> > it not parsing in either, so I'm pretty sure my usage is correct in th= is >> > case. >> >> I don't understand what you mean. >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> > > Neither "me pa nanla gi'e re nixli" nor "me pa nanla je re nixli" parses > in camxes or jboski. > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:08 P= M, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> 54. cy: xu do'o se panzi
>> =A0 =A0by: go'i .i mi'a se panzi lo cimei noi me pa nanla = .e re nixli
>>
>> I think that expands as "noi me pa nanla gi'e me re nixli= ".
>
> I looked at that one, and in both camxes and jboski it parses as "= ;me (pa
> nanla .e re nixli)".

Of course. And "broda ko'a .e ko'e" also parses as = "broda (ko'a .e
ko'e)". I'm talking about what the ".e" short form e= xpands to. It
always expands to a bridi connective.

I don&= #39;t understand what you mean by this expansion thing, especially since yo= u seem to be contradicting yourself, as you previously said that ".e&q= uot; expands to ".ije".

Is there perhaps some site I can be directed to that explains this?
= =A0


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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&= #39;o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
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