Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:51490) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SUro5-0001q8-Eb; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:21 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5sf1458627ggk.16 for ; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=M1u3cB7RQ6UpN2sfMJYNi9fhcTVisXb9f9iG4ZNYNlc=; b=uFMegXpRp6cAT+SsJLGcalxF5Xo29Xv8fx0KWtTeVJyh4jZsnuBVbhpDI7GFPYa17A e4fe6tv22Ci7p3gZkYvyuEO2keN0YyOTaEJa/8xso1HtyD+oQeKhRQHIjpRkabhwJXl7 bIG7236VTCW1rMUyMGN+SATR4G3vny9CMHxN0= Received: by 10.236.145.199 with SMTP id p47mr553070yhj.1.1337226910315; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.157.15 with SMTP id j15ls293151ano.6.gmail; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.190.227 with SMTP id e63mr934630yhn.3.1337226909651; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.190.227 with SMTP id e63mr934628yhn.3.1337226909638; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b73si3922601yhh.4.2012.05.16.20.55.08; Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DB62164B for ; Wed, 16 May 2012 23:55:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What can you do with Lojban that you can't do with English? Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 23:55:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <3639382.1486.1337213982012.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcpi6> In-Reply-To: <3639382.1486.1337213982012.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcpi6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201205162355.05615.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Wednesday 16 May 2012 20:19:41 Lindar wrote: > We have red chickens and cows. > Are the cows red? Also, "we" =3D "I and who else?" mi'a ponse lo xunre jipci .e lo bakni =97 doesn't say what color the cows a= re. mi'a ponse lo xunre jipci je bakni =97 false, as no chicken is a cow. mi'a ponse lo xunre jipci .e lo xunre bakni =97 the cows are red. mi'a ponse lo xunre jipci ja bakni =97 they're all red, but whether they're= all=20 chickens or all cows or a mix isn't stated. Pierre --=20 loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.