Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:53198) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ScM3A-0001dh-Qs; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:56 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf6686075pbb.16 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rgQ+24pjNHCqhxX7EZk+mlhI5khZCpfU83R6grIA4iE=; b=t3GPLy0itx2SgjvMlR7kVjGgnuIR/dW6WQRDnQHUG/P+WMTrmphVSjXtFX9TtXcF/9 Vw3hIG8sRWs2El9JvmuWL3bX+GqRhEg+JPHpR2Ln86SXOd/HqSk32usyJPTvhyMFLjwc fkNBck91hnXynLaJJnvuq0n9DUZ+gLsQPpsk8= Received: by 10.50.169.37 with SMTP id ab5mr1072461igc.1.1339011462812; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.11.232 with SMTP id t8ls2939959igb.2.canary; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.178.68 with SMTP id cw4mr5408023igc.0.1339011461277; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.178.68 with SMTP id cw4mr5408022igc.0.1339011461266; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay01.pair.com (relay01.pair.com. [209.68.5.15]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id po2si625638igb.2.2012.06.06.12.37.40; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.15 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.15; Received: (qmail 97997 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2012 19:37:38 -0000 Received: from 87.160.143.36 (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (87.160.143.36) by relay01.pair.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2012 19:37:38 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 87.160.143.36 Message-ID: <4FCFB181.7090409@plasmatix.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:37:37 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Question on lu... li'u usage References: <5dce11db-6a89-43ef-93c7-27d1333711eb@googlegroups.com> <4FCF9F47.5090907@plasmatix.com> <081fee5e-59b7-4431-8e0f-7324e3188b4f@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <081fee5e-59b7-4431-8e0f-7324e3188b4f@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.15 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Am 06.06.2012 21:23, schrieb ianek: > On 6 Cze, 20:19, Miles Forster wrote: >> Am 06.06.2012 19:47, schrieb ianek: >> >>> By the way, is there something one can do when the cited words include >>> "sei", to mark that the "sei" is a part of the citation? >> How about sei sa'a nai? > This raises more questions than answers: what if the sei in the > quotation is already followed by {sa'a} or {sa'a nai}? This probably comes down to convention. Since the default (in common=20 usage) is for the sei within the quote to not be regarded part of the=20 quote, you would have state somewhere outside quote that you are using a=20 different convention in your text. .i =ABlu li'o sei [sa'a [nai]] broda li'u=BB sei ro zo sei cu pagbu lo sitn= a=20 selsku [gi'e se sitna] If you stick to this convention throughout an entire book, it would be=20 enough to mention it once in the beginning. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.